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Kali[_2_]

In article ,
says...

The Founders wanted small govt. Today's so-called liberals want to
control every aspect our lives, from the food we eat, to the car we
drive, to our temperature settings, school busing, quotas .. .....

Teddy Roosevelt, a progressive liberal, made the world a safer place
by insisting on clean stockyards and labels on food products. It
wasn't (and isn't now) about controlling people's lives, it's about
improving the quality of life.

Liberals aren't authoritarian. I think you're confusing liberals
with socialists.

Classic liberalism was more akin to today's conservatism.

In the tactics, not the goals.

That's for starters.

Classical Liberalism, Libertarianism,
and Individualism
by Jonathan Dolhenty, Ph.D.

....

Classical Liberals and Welfare Liberals

"Bruce Ackermann and Ann Alstott, have advocated that every U.S.
citizen with a high school diploma should receive a bounty of
$80,000 on his or her twenty-first birthday."

That's socialism, not liberalism. Very different things.

So here you have a libertarian comparing libertarianism to
socialism, its virtual opposite. Libertarians and liberals have much
more in common. (You missed where he frames his essay at the top in
terms of Realism and Individualism, not libertarians vs. liberals?)

Hey, is this why you wingers are so afraid of Obama? You don't know
the difference between socialism and liberalism?

Scary stupid. If I were a socialist I'd be crusading against your
right to spew this crap and to vote. But I'm a liberal, and I'll
fight for your right to be as stupid and uneducated and verbose as
you want to be, enjoying your safe foods, roads, schools, hospitals,
and other "pork" in peace.
--
Kali

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