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Default Red over green mast lights for sailboat



Lee Huddleston wrote:
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As you know, for sailboats under sails alone the regulations call for
(with regard to my 43 foot cutter/ketch) a combination port/starboard
light at the bow (or separate sidelights) and a stern light or a
tri-colored light at the peak of the mast. In other words the
configuration for power boats but without the white masthead light
showing forward. From my experience the lack of a masthead light is a
distinction that is rather subtle and could be overlooked in traffic
or poor visibility.


If I'm reading this right you are suggesting the use of the white
masthead, while undersail alone, when in traffic or poor visibility?

If so, ....BIG NO-NO.

This has led me to reconsider the value of the
red over green mast light that is an option for sailboats under sail
alone. It is so distinct that even the most casual observer would
immediately recognize that the vessel was a sailboat.

First questions are whether you have ever seen the optional red over
green lights used? Was it as distinctive as I assume that it would
be? What size vessel did you see it on? What is your opinion about
the usefulness of this option?


Have seen this rarely, and usually on a much larger sailboat (small
"Tallship". Remember it being quite distinctive, but due to rarity of
sightings, it took a few seconds to remember. (will get to usefulness
for your case later)

The second set of questions have more to do with the electronics and
building news groups. I seem to remember reading somewhere that
lights in a vertical stack should (or have to) be separated by one
meter. Since the red over green lights would be entirely optional,
you probably could get away with less separation but there probably is
a minimum separation to keep the lights from appearing to merge when
sighted at a distance. Anybody have any opinion on what the minimum
distance would have to be so that the lights would appear as separate
lights at say 2 nautical miles?


To be certain, check Annex I, in the rules, but I think you'll find the
minimum to be 1M apart.

The distance apart also complicates
the installation. One idea I had was to hoist two lanterns up to a
block on an upper spreader. The lanterns could be powered by their
own batteries or I could run wires down to an outlet on the deck.
What do you think of this possible arrangement? It would not be at
the peak of the mast and would be blocked from vision from one side of
the boat at times by the mast. But, it would have the advantage of
being removable and repairable easily. Such an arrangement could also
be used for displaying red over red or red/white/red when those
signals might be necessary.


G pushing it a bit. For the red over green, they are to be "at or
near" the top of the mast. However, breakdown light can be where "best
seen".

Since I already have a tri-color light at the peak of my mainmast, any
permanent extension above the peak would interfere with the visibility
of the tri-color (and its anchor light) when I chose to use it. Since
I have a mizzen mast, I have considered building an extension for the
peak of that mast. The added advantage of this arrangement is that it
would not increase the overall height of my rig for purposes of
vertical clearance. But even with some kind of extension, how do I
keep the pole or extension itself from blocking the light from certain
angles? Well, experts, what do you think of all this? Of course,
would be a lot of work to design and install such an arrangement. But
if it kept me from getting run down just once, it would be well worth
the effort. Or, on the other hand, have I just lost my mind? :-)


OK, Here's where I get confused. If you all ready have the tri-color,
why would you also want the "red over green"? I ask, because you can
only display one or the other, not both (at the same time), and that
tri-color does an excellent job .... though, admittedly, the red over
green, coupled with normal sidelights, might be better in close quarters.

You raise some good questions, the answers to which in some cases, may
come down to your own preferences and how many options you want to have
available.

otn

Thanks in advance for your advice and help.

Lee Huddleston
s/v Truelove
Bruce Roberts Mauritius 43
43 foot seel hulled, center cockpit, raised poop, cutter/ketch