"Marty" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Marty" wrote in message
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Dave wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:39:43 -0500, Marty said:

A typical wind farm will run from $500 million to $2 billion, you
think tree huggers are providing the capital for these?
So I take it you believe there is no need for the guvmint to spend
taxpayer
money subsidizing these installations?
So I take it you believe there is no need for the guvmint to use
taxpayer money to prevent Union Carbide from dumping as much toxic
waste in the environment as they feel like.
??????
Come on, Marty. I know you're more rational than to post such a
non-sequitur. Do you believe those wind farms offer enough profit so as
not
to require the taxpayers to shovel tax money at them?

Why not? You post them all the time.

Anyway, yes, they offer enough profit; although it's for thoroughly
idiotic reasons. One reason, though somewhat minor is that some
environmentalists are foolish enough to pay a premium for "green"
energy. More important are heavy industries who find that it's great to
capitalize these projects and use the resultant carbon credits to offset
their own pollution and thereby not have to invest heavily in other
reduction technology. Profit is a powerful motivator.

They do make money otherwise, do a little work with Google and see why
Texas has so much installed wind plant.

Even given that, I'd rather the guvmint subsidize clean energy than AIG.

Not that I really like either.


Cheers
Martin



I guess I'm one of those "environmentalists," since I do pay extra every
month for clean energy.



Jon, I'm almost anathema to environmentalists, I believe that nuclear is a
very clean way to go, and I don't have to pay a premium for it. More than
half of Ontario's installed capacity, (some 30,000 Megawatts) is nuclear.
Of course I think that the CANDU reactor is particulary attractive;
doesn't need enriched fuel, can be used to burn weapons grade plutonium
and thereby dispose of the stuff, is inherently safe, (the coolant is also
the moderator, loose coolant, the reaction stops)......


Cheers
Martin


There are lots of environmentalists who have rethought the nuclear option
for energy. At one point, I thought it a good option (and perhaps it is). My
main concern with that option is the environmental cost of mining the
uranium, which seems to be pretty destructive.


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