"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
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Vic Smith wrote:

Though I can't disagree with anything you've said, I do think the
Israeli jews believe they will be slaughtered, or exiled from Israel
should they treat Palestinians like we in the U.S. treat Mexicans or
blacks. I'm not sure of that, but if were an Israeli I suspect I
would take that tack. Though we've been multicultural throughout our
history, there is plenty of opposition here in the U.S. to letting the
language aspect of multiculturalism bleed into everyday life. I get a
bit ****ed every time I'm asked to choose 1 or 2 on the phone.
Wouldn't think of moving to Mexico and conducting business on the
phone without speaking Spanish.
So I'm sure we agree on some things.
My support for the Palestinians dried up when Israel finally withdrew
from the occupied territories and I saw the result.
Not a damned thing changed. Blood lust. Not too different than the
other radical Muslims.
Except when I feel the lust myself - and I have - I take no sides.
These are just off the cuff remarks, and I may be wrong about much of
it, and since nobody pays for my opinions, that's what they're worth.
Nothing. But I do like to write them down now and then.
And hear others' opinions.


The reasoning you give for the Jews demanding an essentially ethnically
clean State is the one that Israelis living here have said to me. Their
argument is identical to the whites in South Africa before the black
takeover. They won't live in a non-Jewish (non white when it comes to
SA) state.

Why? Would those same Jews demand that no area, no voting district, no
precinct in the US be less than 51% white?

The problem, as I understand it, with the areas now in fully
Palestinian hands is that there are no ways to make a living there.
There is no industry. No capital. Nothing. Sure, many impoverished Jews
showed up in Israel during the past 60 years (or more) but they were
sponsored by wealthy Jews from other lands such as Britain and the USA.

What causes radical Muslims? Part of it must be that there is nothing
for them to lose in this world so they become easy to convince that
their payoff is in taking out a few Jews rather than living a welfare
life in some camp forever. Look at these guys as being Mexicans peering
across the border to a prosperous land they wish to enter & work in.
They can't because they are caged up, wall up and patrolled with
machine guns.

I am NOT defending random tossing of missiles into Israel by these
guys. Not even close. I'm only saying that, IMO, US policy isn't
looking at the entire picture.
Part of the entire picture is that Israel has created a secular,
democratic, free society that is very attractive to many if only because
it is so rare in that area. Israel, while not perfect, is a shining
beacon of morality and opportunity and that is the biggest reason
radical Islam wants it destroyed. It is also the biggest reason it is
our duty to help defend it.

Stephen


Whew.. I don't usually agree with you, but your comments (taken with the
appropriately size grains of salt) I mostly agree with.

My editing... the society is mostly secular, but not completely, since it
is the "Jewish State,"

I was watching a program about the best commercials of the year and there
was a commercial from Israel with crazy dancing rabbis saying that HD TV
was so good you'd go to hell for watching it. That qualifies as secular
enough IMO.

Stephen


Now that's funny! Thanks...

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