On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:17:11 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 1, 10:46*am, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jan 2009 09:18:57 -0500, Boater penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:





Tom Francis wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:49:13 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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You might want to try the Norton removal tool from Symantec:

http://tinyurl.com/7v555b

I haven't used it recently but in the past it was effective in removing
their bloat-ware

I assumed that you have the 2008 version, if not there are tools on the
Symantec site for other versions.

Make sure you have the FREE version of AVG. *Sometimes it's hard to
locate the free version URL.

Thanks. *I read it. *Not sure I am ready to try it, but I bookmarked it.
I am pretty sure I found the free version of AVG. *There was a leading
advertisement to
get the full up version for free also, but I read it carefully and
discovered it was one of those
"free to try" deals. * The version I downloaded from:

http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition/3000-2239_4-10320...

is the basic, "free" file. *Hold on ..... it's file name is: *"index.php"
Haven't installed it yet though. *Been reading that there have been some
problems getting it to install. * Need to research it a bit more.

Eisboch
I've installed free AVG on three Vista PCs with no problems. *I think you
know to remove Norton before the AVG install.

Well, that's where I am hung up. * I haven't actually installed Norton on
the new computer, but I haven't completely removed it either. * It still
asks to be installed every time I reboot. * I figured I'd try to learn how
to completely remove it from the computer before installing AVG. * Your link
provided good information, but it's obviously not as simple as doing a
Windows "Remove Program".

I hate doing stuff like this. *Every time I try to do something more
involved than a simple install or uninstall, I screw up the computer and I
am up all night trying to fix it.

You need to use a more mystical approach - be one with the program and
one with the computer.

OOOOMMMMMMMM.......

Oh - I forgot to define mystical approach.

Take it to your local geek store and have them do it for you which is
what I did with the last new computer I bought - took it to the local
nerd shop, said remove the bloatware - two hours and $50 later, presto
- gone.

OOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM......

Another pain in the ass security suite is McAfee's. I don't use it, but
it now comes as a "free trial" download for HP Windoze Home Servers.
Some users have had a lot of trouble with it, so I didn't install the
freebie. I use something else on my server.

I think McAfee's is the single worst software I have ever had the
misfortune to load on a computer.

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I went for years and years not liking Mcafee. But Comcast offers it
with their internet service, I loaded on my desktop and couldn't be
happier with it, things have changed.

Cox does the same here. They worry about keeping it updated and paying for
it. It comes 'free' with the internet, and I've noticed nothing bad about
it. It seems that the machine is running faster than it was when I had my
own version loaded.
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