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BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:

Is the UAW run be idiots? It sure sounds like it. The UAW
"executives" think they are tough negotiators but in reality they
just feed off of the crumbs that the auto manufacturers toss them.




I'll be polite. You do not know what you are talking about in this
matter.





Why does the UAW let the auto manufacturers keep the pension money
for the union members?

Why does the UAW let the quto manufacturers keep the benefit
(medical, dental, etc...) money for the union members?

What benefit do union members receive from the UAW?




1. As I explained previously, the UAW follows the traditional
manufacturing-white collar model. Many employers operate the same way.
Many employers have defined pension plans (that number is shrinking)
and 401k's. It isn't a matter of "allow." The UAW does not dictate
corporate policy. If you are asking me the particulars as to why this
model is followed by the UAW, that is a question you'd have to ask the
union.


Why don't they change it. Surely the union has enough muscle in the form
of bargaining power to get it changed or do they not want the
responsibility of managing their members pensions and benefits. It
sounds like they want the company on the hook if costs go up.

2. See 1., above.


The UAW should be able to get a very good deal with an insurance
companies on an insurance policy for medical, dental, life and other
benefits. Again, it sounds like the union doesn't want the
responsibility if the costs go up.

3. Heheheheheh. Typically, unions negotiate wages, hours, working
conditions and benefits for their members, and represent their members
in grievance processing.


Doesn't sound like they do enough for their members.

You talk about your work a bit from time to time. I'm guessing you are
not a payroll employee.


Exempt employee, I get a nice deposit into my checking account every two
weeks. Oh, and it is at will employment. Just the way I like it.





Bert, I suggest you direct your UAW questions to the UAW. I am not a
member of that union and I haven't really known anyone there since my
days working Dem politics and PR in Detroit. That was a long, long time
ago.

While I assist international unions, these days I stay out of their
politics. I help whoever is in charge...and when those players change, I
help the new guys/gals. I don't make policy or assist in making
policy...but once there is policy, I help promote it.