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KLC Lewis KLC Lewis is offline
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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:42:40 -0600, "KLC Lewis"
said:

Not at all. The right of privacy is implicit in the first 24 words of that
Amendment. You seem to have a real problem with "sodomy." I'll bet you
dollars against donuts that you've committed it yourself. Wanna go to
prison
for it? Do you think it's anyone's business what you do in the privacy of
your own bedroom with a consenting adult of your choosing?


Typical muddle-headed reasoning. You confuse the question whether
something
is desirable with the question whether that something is guaranteed by the
Constitution. It may or may not be desirable to allow a State to prosecute
Barney Frank for cornholing his boyfriend in the privacy of their bedroom.
But I'm reasonably sure that those ratifying the Fourteenth Amendment (the
Fourth applies directly only to the federal government) didn't think they
were guaranteeing Mr. Frank the right to cornhole his boyfriend without
State interference.

Since you seem to be focusing on the exact words of the Constitution,
rather
than its meaning, do you find anywhere within that document a right to own
clothing? I submit that no such right exists, as the words "right to own
clothing" appear nowhere within the Constitution. You are therefore
required
to go naked.


Another typical fallacy. You assume that unless the government has
explicitly said one may do something, he may not do it--all that is not
explicitly permitted is forbidden. Worse, you assume not only that some
part
of the government must explicitly say I may do something, but that the
Constitution must say I may do it--if the Constitution doesn't say I may
own
clothing I may not own clothing.

You're really going off the deep end.

Ever hear of "enumerated powers"? With thinking like yours about, I guess
the founding fathers were not at all far afield in deciding the Tenth
Amendment was needed.


Actually, I was using sarcasm to defeat your position. Sorry you missed it.
On the one hand you assert that no right to privacy exists because the word
"privacy" doesn't appear in the Constitution; on the other, you assert that
the right to wear clothing doesn't have to be enumerated in order to exist.
I assert that in BOTH cases, the right is implied within the Constitution
itself, regardless of enumeration. See the fourth amendment, the ninth and
the tenth.