The thread were some clumsy lubber is asking everybody else to tell him how
to retrieve an unnecessary object that went by the boards well illustrates
the current sad state of affairs which exists respecting the burgeoning
socialist thinking in the sailing community. It seems that "It Takes a
Village" even to sail these days. Friggin' liberal girly-men!

Get a clue people! Socialism doesn't work when sailing any better than it
works in economics. Sailing by committee or sailing by expecting somebody
else to do it all for you is just another form of socialism and there's no
mistake about it.

Sailing is successfully done only via those who embody an independent
attitude. People like the crew of the sunken "Red Cloud," for example, have
no business even boarding a boat. Their first tendency is to yell for help
and the last thing on their minds is a consummate belief in self. This
situation is untenable. Successful sailors believe in self above anything
else (other than God Almighty who is the ONLY entity from whom they don't
begrudge asking for help). Successful sailors are people who DO and asking
how to do and begging others to do for them is abhorrent. Successful sailors
are those who have honed their skills by doing not by asking, begging,
whining or crying.

Successful sailors believe in simple is better. It's asking for trouble to
embrace complication over simplicity when it comes to plying the world's
oceans under sail. But, nevertheless, that is a personal decision. By all
means, choose complication if that is your wont. But, having done so, it's
time to live with the consequences of your choice. Any problems that
henceforth arise should be viewed realistically and should be handled by you
and you alone. What's with this crap of begging for help because your
decision has caused you problems you didn't expect? Is that adult behavior?
No it is not. That kind of thing is so very childish and irresponsible. Real
sailors abhor irresponsibility, yet you openly brag about it with your
whining, begging and revelations of your blunders tending to unnecessary and
ignorant complications such as wind-up sails.

Take any sailor from the 18th century and have him listen to the idiocy,
dependency and childishness of most of the discussion in these groups that
passes as legitimate by those who fancy themselves sailors and he would
shake his head, spit and exclaim, "Blimey! Our cabin boy is ten times the
sailors these ******s are!"


Wilbur Hubbard