JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 07:43:23 -0500, Boater wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Dec 5, 5:33 am, Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
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When I was young I liked to fight and thought the US should be the
same way. I am now a lot older and a lot wiser.
We need to be a lot more careful where we are willing to spill
American blood and also be careful before we spill other people's
blood. We are far from "untouchable" and you can't kill enough
innocent goat herders to change that. It only makes it worse.
Well said. I agree.
One problem though. The world is always full of new "young" people going
through the same process.
There's no chill pill.
Eisboch
I've always thought we should send the old farts clamoring for war off
to the battlefront first, along with their sons and daughters. In our
most recent lunacy, think how much "cred" Cheney and Rumsfeld and the
neocons would have had if they were shipped over to Iraq in uniform,
handed a rifle and told to lead the way.
We've got a few here like that, too. Their privilege to speak their
minds. But let's see them back that up with action and sacrifice on
their part. I suspect *that* would chill most of the warmongers and if
they did go, thin out some of the bad blood in the gene pool.
Usually, but not always, sending our young people to fight because of
the mistakes of their elders, is wrong. It was the right thing to do in
the case of Bush I, because he knew what the hell he was doing, and did
it mostly right. It was wrong in the case of Bush II for so many reasons
there isn't enough bandwidth to list them all.
Oh well, Obama's gonna fixit. Look at what he did for Illinois?
http://www.forthegoodofillinois.org/IL-Debt-Counter/
I don't expect Obama to fix all the messes President Idiot left before
he headed back to oblivion and drunkedness in Texas, but I do believe he
will work assiduously to restore our position of respect and admiration
in the world. He'll shut down the Gitmo Gulag, he'll seriously start
ending the war against Iraq without all the Bush Admin bull****, he'll
have us participating in treaties the rest of the world supports, he'll
take diplomacy a lot more seriously, and he will talk to our enemies,
not just rattle sabers at them.
On the other hand, with Bush's mismanagement of the economy, maybe we'll
just be better off if the country declares Chapter 11.
You make him sound like another kiss-ass liberal. I hope he's got some
balls.
Come January 20th, it's his fault. No blaming Bush. Remember your response
whenever Clinton got mentioned.
I'm hoping you'll take you and yours on the Inauguration Cruise.
http://tinyurl.com/6mppkl
--
John H
*Have a Super Christmas and a Spectacular New Year!*
The Bush Recession/Depression will not be Obama's fault.
But any significant foreign policy blunders after he takes office will be.
Yeah, that's just what we want to do...get on a cruise ship in
Lauderdale with a boatload of drunks for a cruise to Bal'mer...in
mid-January.
Domestically, I think we are heading to the Left Coast in February and
then a week in southern Florida in May before it gets too hot for man or
beast. We have two "furrin" trips planned for 2009.