On 18 Nov 2008 17:29:02 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:27:03 -0500, Marty said:

Thirty bucks an hour! Less, much less. Toyota and Honda pay quite
well. (shhh, don't tell Dave)

Have you included in the Toyota and Honda numbers the costs of all fringes
and payments to former workers not to work? Have you included those costs in
the Big Three wage costs?

Yeah, turns out the assembly line workers at Toyota are making $1000
an hour, 24/7 until they drop dead, regardless of whether they show up
on any day other than payday. They are pressing management to start
mailing them their paychecks so they don't have to break up their week
by coming in at all.

Sheesh!