On Nov 18, 1:44*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:36:05 -0800, "Calif Bill"

wrote:
14" of snow in Cleveland, OH and seeing the snow all over the Northeast on
hte weather map, is close enough to winter to count.

More global warming.

Actually, global warming can mean more lake affect snow. The cold air
picking up moisture from the warmer lake water.