On Nov 17, 11:14 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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Gotta go to Madison, WI. Its a nice place in summer but winter, you
godda be kiddin. I always wanted to sail on those two lakes but I'll
take a rain check till summer. Finally found my old parka, gloves and
such. Has the water turned into that bizarro state called "ice" yet
there?

What are you blathering about? Winter doesn't even start for another month.

All a matter of definition.