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Ply tinnie replacement needed
On 7 May 2004 22:44:20 -0700,
(peterMelbourneAustralia) wrote something:
.....and I say in return....
If this is a repost, sorry. I tried posting before but seem to have
disappeared.
I have built and mucked around with and in boats for years. Glass,
wood, aluminium (bought not built).
I would seriously be looking at a tinnie.
My FIL has had one, 14ft (Doggett??) with a 20HP outboard on it for as
many years as I can remember (ooohhh at least 3....no.. G more like
15 years+). He wore a tiny hole (which he originally patched with
sisal and bondcrete!) in it from a badly built trailer, washes it down
after each fishing trip, and has otherwise never touched it. He used
it at least once a week on average, and now he is retired, even more.
He has been through 2 secondhand motors, reasonably cared for.
I have been out with him in Perth's water in a nasty chop, with three
hefty people, and fishing, crabbing and water aboard, and while it
bumps around a lot at speed, it is a very seaworthy little boat.
I did some looking around. A Brooker 4.5m (14ft) boat has a beam of
1.95 and a depth of 1m. That's a lot of "14ft" boat. It weighs a lot
more than the Trover, but IMO would be dryer, more stable and hold a
lot more. That Trover with 450Kg in it would be _loaded_. I would
compare the Trover to the 3.8 or 4.1 size tinnies, and they weigh
about the same.
My point is that alum boats are very light per capacity and very
strong and low mtce.
If (and I sympathise if not) you or anyone in your family can sell
_anything_, you would always get your money back on the hull, at sale
time.
The Trover is semi-flat-bottomed (you said you don't want a flat
bottom) and pram-bowed. It waould also not be the simplest design,
although simple. The guy who designs these designs some beautiful
boats....from a pride, building and boaties point of view. I do not
see them as dead simplest, not even the Trover.
Cost the build _very_ carefully. The Trover would need; 5 (?) sheets
of ply, $400, glue $150, timber $150, paint $150
I see 12-14ft tinnies on the market with 9hp outboard for $1500. I
would worry a lot more about the motor than the boat!
..... and IME, a boat rushed is a boat regretted.
My fahter, 72, is finding his 12ft fiberglass boat to heavy to launch
by himself and needs a lighter boat.
The present boat has a 5hp outboard, solidly built, seaworth and has a
deep keel, unfortunately it is also a little heavy.
Was thinking of the 12ft version of John Welsford's Trover (without
well).
Dad's boat must be fast to build (not complicated), for motoring only
(sailing boats need not apply!!!), seaworthy, light, easy to build (a
few panels of marine ply) and not overly expensive. Basically he needs
a ply version of what we in australia call a 'tinnie'.
Thr Trover (12ft vers) is 12ft long, 4'7 beam. In cross section it is
made of only 5 panels (narrow flat bottom and two panels on each
side). Flat bottomed punts need not apply.
N. Peter Evans
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