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Default Obama again wins "debate"

On 17 Oct 2008 23:35:25 GMT, D Murphy wrote:

Cliff wrote in
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On 17 Oct 2008 21:20:12 GMT, D Murphy wrote:

Cliff wrote in
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On 17 Oct 2008 07:14:57 GMT, D Murphy wrote:

McCain and Obama's plans are identical in that neither actually cuts
taxes,

It sounds like Obama may try to control spending.
Start there.

You're not familiar with his platform then. He has never claimed
anything of the sort. Just the opposite in fact.


His platform reduces spending compared to McSame's.


Utter nonsense. Neither plan reduces spending at all. They both increase
deficit spending.


Check your facts.

Obama says he's giving a tax cut to the poorest
Americans. How?


Check your facts.

They don't pay any taxes. What he does is mail them a
check. That's not a tax cut, it's welfare.


Check your facts.

Just not enough yet IMHO.

If you want to spend on wars & lies then raise the taxes
on those that can best afford to pay for the wars & lies
(who seem to support them most anyway).

There's no way of knowing whether that will in fact happen or not.


Reread my point.

Get us out of debt as a first priority!!

Unfortunately that's not one of the two choices.


Clearly it's never been a repub one.
Look at what they do, not what they say.
Wingers lie.


Yeah right.


Check your facts.

Just look at the economic miracle that Illinois Democrats
including Obama brought to their own home state when they took the
majority.


Was this after those repubs went to jail?

By the time the "hopeful changer" ran for the US Senate,
Illinois had the highest state budget deficit in the country.


The repubs had cut their taxes & increased spending?
More trickle-down, right?

It has only
gotten worse. Not to mention the record deficits in Cook county and
Chicago. All thanks to Obama's corrupt pals Daley, Stroger, and
Blagojevich.


Offer to pay taxes & hire people at a decent wage.

He had time to write two memoirs but never wrote any legislation unless
it enriched his friends and supporters. Everything else was handed to him
by Emil Jones for him to put his name on to build his resume for a run at
the US Senate. He's a bag of fluff whose beholden to the machine. You'll
see.


You do love the winger sites.

Meanwhile, I wonder what Rezko is whispering to the feds? Blago is
certainly in deep trouble. I wonder who else?


Probably a pile of repubs.
--
Cliff