Cliff wrote in
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On 1 Oct 2008 02:04:45 GMT, D Murphy wrote:

Cliff wrote in
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On 24 Sep 2008 03:20:55 GMT, D Murphy wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in
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"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message
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Its a wonder that the lefties haven't attempted to ban the Harry
Potter books, chock full as they are with mysticism and
supernaturalism. Not to mention the rampant Christian
symbolism,
the definitive expectation of the difference between Good and
Evil,
and that you ought to not merely find Evil distasteful, but
something worth combating, actively combating, not just passing
resolutions against.

You're a little slow on the draw there, pyotr. Christian
conservatives have sued or petitioned school boards all over the
country to ban them from schools.

Lest you forget Ed there have been plenty of politically correct
left
wingers pushing to ban books like "Of Mice and Men", "Adventures
of
Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn", and "Uncle Tom's Cabin" for
offensive words, ideas, and pedaling a "softer view of slavery"
among
other reasons.

Pfffhht. You're talking about a short-term thing that was out on
the
fringes. Christian conservatives have been trying to ban books for
200
years.

Try finding those books in a middle school library then.

I guess you've never looked though the big words
may be above the vocabulary level of wingers in
"middle school".

They went from
required reading to banned.

When were they required reading?

When I went to school.

And now you say that they are banned?

I take it that teaching reading comprehension wasn't high on the list of
priorities at your school?


And what school library would have enough copies for
all the students?

I don't know what kind of dump you went to,

Second best pubic school system in the State followed
by a top ranked (#3 in it's national group) college.
None of them had enough copies of any single book for all
in any class. Nor should they have.

Sad really.


but where I went to school
the library didn't keep the books for class. They had a copy or two.
Books that were required reading were handed out by the teacher. I read
all three of those books plus a good many other throughout my years in
middle school.

And the teacher handed out copies to all the students?

Yes.


As for the length of time they've been at;
that's really not the problem is it?

They persist.

It's their right.

To ban books?

To speak their mind.



I also find it hypocritical that Cliff is against burning books.
Him
being a big proponent of freedom and all. It's merely another
legal
form of freedom of speech AFAICT. Just so long as the book you're
burning legally belongs to you.

Cliff is against someone burning his own books? Why?

During you hiatus he was in a tizzy over some folks burning Harry
Potter
books. I actually read his link. Turns out they bought them, then lit
them on fire.

They were promoting sales of the books?

As best as I recall, I got him to say that flag burning is
OK but not book burning. Seems like the same thing to me.

You seem confused.


Neither the far left or the far right has much tolerance for
freedom
of speech.

Ideologues are a plague upon civilization.


Maybe. But they really do test where the lines are drawn and they
cause
people to think.

Not wingers.

So it's not all bad. You just can't let them run amok.

Like gummer, the cheese, ....

You're drooling.

http://www.sterlingtimes.co.uk/sambo.htm

Still 11 years old at heart I see. Maybe if they had more books...

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Dan

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