On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:22:28 -0700, John R. Carroll wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 12, 5:14 pm, "Hawke" wrote:
CLINTON dropped the ball on this one.
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How come you don't address the fact that Clinton could have gotten
OBL a
number of times but didn't? Was it above his pay grade? (Good thing
OBL
didn't change his name to "Vince Foster")
Don't confuse Ms Carrol with the ugly truth.
Your "truth" is a lie told originally by NewsMax. Read the 9/11
Commission Report for the truth.
http://www.9-11commission.gov/staff_...tatement_5.pdf (bottom
of page 3):
If you think that by informing our right wingers of the truth about the
subject it will have any effect on their beliefs you are out of your
mind. The point is those guys don't care about the truth so informing
them won't do any good. They believe what they want to believe and even
if you show them they are wrong they still won't change their minds.
That's just the way they are.
Hawke
The truth of your free health care is that I get to pay for mine and I
get to pay for yours.
A study coming out Tuesday from scholars at Columbia, Harvard, Purdue and
Michigan projects that 20 million Americans who have employment-based
health insurance would lose it under the McCain plan.
There is nothing secret about Senator McCain's far-reaching proposals, but
they haven't gotten much attention because the chatter in this campaign
has mostly been about nonsense - lipstick, celebrities and "Drill, baby,
drill!"
For starters, the McCain health plan would treat employer-paid health
benefits as income that employees would have to pay taxes on.
"It means your employer is going to have to make an estimate on how much
the employer is paying for health insurance on your behalf, and you are
going to have to pay taxes on that money," said Sherry Glied, an economist
who chairs the Department of Health Policy and Management at Columbia
University's Mailman School of Public Health.
Ms. Glied is one of the four scholars who have just completed an
independent joint study of the plan. Their findings are being published on
the Web site of the policy journal, Health Affairs.
http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2008/0...ice-the-price/
According to the study: "The McCain plan will force millions of Americans
into the weakest segment of the private insurance system - the nongroup
market - where cost-sharing is high, covered services are limited and
people will lose access to benefits they have now."
The net effect of the plan, the study said, "almost certainly will be to
increase family costs for medical care."
Under the McCain plan (now the McCain-Palin plan) employees who continue
to receive employer-paid health benefits would look at their pay stubs
each week or each month and find that additional money had been withheld
to cover the taxes on the value of their benefits.
Lets not get sidetracked into the health insurance debate for it masks the
underlying problem. The fundamental problem is that our health care
system has been hijacked by corporate powers making healthcare too
expensive.
Health care insurance is just another facade by those who have plundered
our economy. Have you tried to get a doctors appointment without
insurance?
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Regards, Curly
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