wrote:
On Sep 12, 5:14 pm, "Hawke" wrote:
CLINTON dropped the ball on this one.

snip

How come you don't address the fact that Clinton could
have gotten
OBL a
number of times but didn't? Was it above his pay grade?
(Good thing
OBL
didn't change his name to "Vince Foster")

Don't confuse Ms Carrol with the ugly truth.

Your "truth" is a lie told originally by NewsMax. Read the
9/11 Commission Report for the truth.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/staff_...tatement_5.pdf
(bottom of page 3):

If you think that by informing our right wingers of the truth about
the subject it will have any effect on their beliefs you are out of
your mind. The point is those guys don't care about the truth so
informing them won't do any good. They believe what they want to
believe and even if you show them they are wrong they still won't
change their minds. That's just the way they are.

Hawke

The truth of your free health care is that I get to pay for mine and I
get to pay for yours.

A study coming out Tuesday from scholars at Columbia, Harvard, Purdue and
Michigan projects that 20 million Americans who have employment-based health
insurance would lose it under the McCain plan.

There is nothing secret about Senator McCain's far-reaching proposals, but
they haven't gotten much attention because the chatter in this campaign has
mostly been about nonsense - lipstick, celebrities and "Drill, baby, drill!"

For starters, the McCain health plan would treat employer-paid health
benefits as income that employees would have to pay taxes on.

"It means your employer is going to have to make an estimate on how much the
employer is paying for health insurance on your behalf, and you are going to
have to pay taxes on that money," said Sherry Glied, an economist who chairs
the Department of Health Policy and Management at Columbia University's
Mailman School of Public Health.

Ms. Glied is one of the four scholars who have just completed an independent
joint study of the plan. Their findings are being published on the Web site
of the policy journal, Health Affairs.

http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2008/0...ice-the-price/

According to the study: "The McCain plan will force millions of Americans
into the weakest segment of the private insurance system - the nongroup
market - where cost-sharing is high, covered services are limited and people
will lose access to benefits they have now."

The net effect of the plan, the study said, "almost certainly will be to
increase family costs for medical care."

Under the McCain plan (now the McCain-Palin plan) employees who continue to
receive employer-paid health benefits would look at their pay stubs each
week or each month and find that additional money had been withheld to cover
the taxes on the value of their benefits.




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John R. Carroll
www.machiningsolution.com