On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:51:23 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:

Curly Surmudgeon wrote: :
:What does orientation or sexual preference have to do with McCain's
lies? :
:
What lies would those be?

Don't play stupid, you know very well.

McCain-approved TV ad claims Obama championed "legislation to teach
comprehensive sex education . . . to kindergarteners! Learning about sex
before learning to read? Barack Obama, wrong on education, wrong for YOUR
family."

In reality, the legislation referred to allows local schools to teach
"age-appropriate" sex education, meaning that kindergarten kids could be
warned about sexual predators and inappropriate touching, but not taught
about sex.

Fact check:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/staff/mar...ory/52169.html

Actual video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVLQhRiEXZs&e

Here's the text of the bill in question. It states explicitly that "(2)
All course material and instruction in classes that teach sex education
and discuss sexual activity or behavior shall be age and developmentally
appropriate." (Language in the existing Illinois law is in plain text;
language that would be added to the law by the bill is underlined;
language that would be removed from existing law is struck through.)
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/full...Sess=&Session=

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"Obama called Sarah Palin a pig" -- John McCain on Tuesday, September 9th,
2008 in a Web ad

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/706/

'Pants-On-Fire" lie:

If there's lipstick on a pig, it's this McCain ad Pants on fire!

The story begins, like so many these days, with Gov. Sarah Palin's speech
at the Republican National Convention last week. Having stirred the crowd
to its feet more than once, Palin delivered a knockout line when she
deadpanned:

"I love those hockey moms. You know the difference between a hockey mom
and a pit bull? Lipstick."

The line drew cheerful applause and has echoed ever since, which seems to
explain how Sen. Barack Obama found himself in the middle of an uproar
when he uttered a time-worn phrase to denigrate Sen. John McCain's
proclaimed agenda for "change" in Washington.

"John McCain says he's about change, too," Obama said. "And so I guess his
whole angle is, 'Watch out, George Bush! Except for economic policy,
health care policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy, and Karl
Rove-style politics, we're really going to shake things up in
Washington.'"

"That's not change," Obama said. "That's just calling something the same
thing something different. But you know, you can put lipstick on a pig.
It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called
change, it's still going to stink after eight years. We've had enough of
the same old thing."

Gasp! He just said lipstick! Did he just call Sarah Palin a pig??!!!

That's the charge.

Later that day, the McCain campaign arranged a conference call for
reporters with Jane Swift, the former governor of Massachusetts. She said
that when you add up Obama's comments and Palin's comments, you get Obama
calling Palin a pig. Swift said Obama should apologize.

"Calling a very prominent female governor of one of our states a 'pig' is
not exactly what we want to see," Swift said.

The issue has dominated the presidential campaign for two days, with the
McCain campaign stirring a controversy by having local lawmakers call for
Obama to apologize, and the Obama campaign responding with examples of how
often he and others have used the phrase. The next day, Obama called the
McCain's campaign tactics "lies and phony outrage and Swift-boat
politics."

On Wednesday, the McCain campaign released a Web ad called "Lipstick." It
begins with a clip of Palin delivering her lipstick line, then text
flashes on the screen saying "Barack Obama on: Sarah Palin." A moment
later, the ad plays a small portion of Obama's "lipstick on a pig" remark,
but not enough of his quotation to make clear what he was talking about.
The ad concludes with a clip of CBS anchor Katie Couric soberly remarking
on sexism on the campaign trail.

The ad has two big problems, as does the complaint of former Gov. Swift.
First, in the full text of the remarks it's clear that Obama isn't talking
about Sarah Palin. He's talking about McCain's argument that he represents
change.

Second, "putting lipstick on a pig" is a popular put-down, especially
among politicians. It generally means taking a bad or unattractive idea
and trying to dress it up.

We weren't able to pin down the origins of this folksy expression, but we
found tons of instances of people using it. The political newspaper The
Hill labeled the phrase "Congress Speak" back in June, and gave it an
official definition: "an expression used to illustrate that something
unattractive cannot be beautified or otherwise positively changed by any
amount of makeup or other exterior alterations."

In 1986, Texas Agricultural Commissioner Jim Hightower used the phrase to
criticize Ronald Reagan's farm policy. During the 2004 presidential
campaign, both Dick Cheney and John Edwards used it to attack the other
guy's running mate. Earlier this year, Democratic Congresswoman Linda
Sanchez of California gave a speech on trade policy. "You know the old
saying about putting lipstick on a pig? Well, I smell bacon," she groused.

Obama and McCain both have used the expression.

In September 2007, Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson quoted Obama
using the phrase to discuss Iraq policy:

"I think that both Gen. Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker are capable people
who have been given an impossible assignment," Obama said. "George Bush
has given a mission to Gen. Petraeus, and he has done his best to try to
figure out how to put lipstick on a pig."

In Iowa on Oct. 11, 2007, McCain panned Sen. Hillary Clinton's health care
plan, calling it "eerily reminiscent" of the plan that failed during Bill
Clinton's administration, according to a report in the Chicago Tribune.

"I think they put some lipstick on a pig," McCain said, "but it's still a
pig."

On Feb. 1, 2007, McCain blasted a Senate resolution that would have
criticized President Bush's strategy in Iraq. Some had praised the
resolution as a compromise measure, but McCain disagreed. "It gets down to
whether you support what is being done in this new strategy or you don't,"
McCain said. "You can put lipstick on a pig, [but] it's still a pig, in my
view."

It is simply impossible to view the complete remarks by Obama and conclude
that he's making a veiled and unsavory reference to Palin. Her name never
is used in the preceding sentence. In fact, it's hard to see how one could
interpret Obama's lipstick-on-a-pig remark as referring directly to
McCain, either. We think it's very clear that Obama was saying McCain's
effort to call himself the "candidate of change" is like putting lipstick
on a pig, trying to dress up a bad idea to look better. Agree or disagree
with Obama's point, but his remark wasn't the smear that McCain's people
have tried to make it.

If anyone's doing any smearing, it's the McCain campaign and its
outrageous attempt to distort the facts. Did Obama call Palin a pig? No,
and saying so is Pants on Fire wrong.
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Phoney Outrage:
McCain using the phrase "Putting Lipstick On A Pig" himself, 02MAY08:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMHlI...eature=related

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"Actually, they are not lies," McCain said during an exchange with host
Barbara Walters:
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5...3gpQgz_1ep_L6A


:McCain, the "straight talker" took on Karl Rove as an advisor :
:
Speaking of lies, there's one.

Stop playing stupid:

Mehlman, Rove boost McCain campaign
By: David Paul Kuhn
March 8, 2008 11:33 AM EST

John McCain is getting much more than President Bush's endorsement and
fundraising help for his campaign. He's getting Bush's staff.

It's no secret that Steve Schmidt, Bush's attack dog in the 2004 election,
and Mark McKinnon, the president's media strategist, are performing
similar functions for McCain now.

But other big-name Bushies are lining up to boost McCain, too.

Ken Mehlman, who ran Bush's 2004 campaign, is now serving as an unpaid,
outside adviser to the Arizona Republican. Karl Rove, the president's top
political hand since his Texas days, recently gave money to McCain and
soon after had a private conversation with the senator. A top McCain
adviser said both Mehlman and Rove are now informally advising the
campaign. Rove refused to detail his conversation with McCain.

The list could grow longer. Dan Bartlett, formerly a top aide in the Bush
White House, and Sara Taylor, the erstwhile Bush political adviser, said
they are eager to provide any assistance and advice possible to McCain.

Rove explained that he and McCain "got to know each other during the 2004
campaign." In a separate interview, Mehlman noted that "McCain was
completely loyal to the president in 2004 and worked incredibly hard to
help him get elected." According to Taylor, "The Bush Republicans here in
town are excited for John McCain."

Despite the president's low approval ratings, there are clear benefits to
McCain for this cozy relationship with the Bush team. They are seasoned
operatives with a track record of winning back-to-back national elections
in tough political environments. But there are obvious drawbacks. First
and foremost, any association with the Bush administration helps Democrats
make their case that McCain represents a clear extension of an unpopular
presidency.

One of those making that argument is Matt Dowd, Bush's chief strategist in
2004.

"[McCain] has sided himself so closely to the administration, especially
on Iraq, now having various Bush advisers -- that doesn't sit well with
the public," said Dowd, who has recently broken with the Bush inner
circle. "The public wants the non-Bush candidate."

Dowd also argued that he believes that the proximity of Bush's advisers
could lead McCain to a strategic mistake" Dowd added. "And I think some of
the things John McCain has done, and how he's done it, has been a fight or
a battle that's gone. I don't think this is going to be a terrorism
election or a national security election."

The McCain adviser said Dowd's concern is unwarranted, pointing to the
campaign's belief that the economy will play a far greater role in the
2008 race than it did in 2004.



That hasn't stopped Democrats from seizing upon the Bush-McCain axis. When
Bush and McCain met at the White House on Wednesday, a Democratic leaning
group aired an ad that day in the swing states of Pennsylvania and Ohio
titled "McSame," attacking McCain as a Bush clone with similar policies on
taxes, health care and the war in Iraq. The Democratic National Committee
quickly posted a video of the news conference on its website. Beneath the
video, it read that McCain would carry on Bush's "failed economic and
foreign policies."

The McCain campaign, for its part, has been coy about how -- or whether --
the senator will distance himself from the president.

McCain said that he intended to campaign with Bush but quickly added a
caveat: only "as it fits into his busy schedule." The scheduling
disclaimer followed each of the five times -- in the 10-minute press
conference -- that McCain invited Bush to join him on the trail.

For now, said a senior adviser to McCain who spoke on the condition of
anonymity, the "the No. 1 strategic goal" was "to solidify the base of
the party." A strong majority of Republicans continue to approve of the
president.

Yet independents and Democrats do not share Republicans' approval of Bush.
And former Bush aides recognize the political exigencies surrounding the
McCain-Bush relationship.

"We agree on far more than we disagree on," Bartlett said. "Everybody will
do everything they can to help. And if part of being helpful means [to]
stay away, I'm sure people will stay away."

At the moment, McCain's campaign seems to believe Bush's assistance is
more valuable than not. But the McCain adviser noted that, down the road,
the campaign will "reinforce that [McCain] is an independent."
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.c...6F9CBBFFC54DE3


Just when did this happen?

March 8, 2008 11:33 AM EST or earlier.

:... and now his campaign has gone negative, :
:
But not until after all the smears from the other side going into the
Republican Convention.

Irrelevant when one makes a promise.

The weirdest thing is that McCain has taken on the master of Slime to help
in negative campaigning, Karl Rove, even after being slimed himself in
1999/2000 by Bush/Rove.

--
Regards, Curly
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