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Quick Question?
How would you know anything about real sailing and commerical
ventures?
IIRC you had a useless 10gt near coastal and never made a dime with
it. If I'm wrong correct me.

You're wrong - consider yourself corrected.

I think that its typical of your total sea experience. You can make a
near perfect score on a book test but you have never been anywhere
sailing.

You're wrong again - consider yourself corrected again.

Also IIRC that poor female has a 100 ton oceans and has earned a
living with it.

Sounds to me like she makes a living faking sprained ankles because she
can't take a few 10-15 foot seas. Sounds to me she knows how to make a wimp
out of her husband. She's got him right where she want's him - wrapped right
around her finger. Yes, it's called being pussy-whipped, Joe!

How many commerical boats have you operated Wilbur? None.

Wrong again - consider yourself corrected for the third time . . .

I think it's funny as hell the way me and Skip and Zac intimidate
you so.

Intimidate? Bwaaaaaahahahhahahahahhhahahahhah! I guess a sure sign of
intimidation in your book is when somebody laughs their ass off at you? And,
at any other so-called sailors who put the bragging first and the successful
voyage as an afterthought.

And Wilbur, you're such a know-it-all please explain what happened to
these boats http://www.cargolaw.com/presentations_casualties.php

It's a couple hundred the last few mo, but since you can explain so
much about the prematurely abandoned Red Cloud and her inept
crew you can tells us all about these people.

That's right, Joe, go ahead and try to make yourself feel better by citing
plenty of examples of failure. But, you know in your heart that no matter
how many other so-called sailors fail it doesn't make your own failure
acceptable. That dog don't hunt, boy!

I think Dale had you in mind Wilbur when talking about the sure thing
boat. "The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is
willing to do and dare. The sure-thing boat never gets far from
shore."

Sorry but since these admonitions come from somebody whose boat is now
laying somewhere on the bottom of the Gulf of Mexica a couple hundred miles
offshore after being ill-advisedly and prematurely abandoned because of a
case of cold feet and an amateur rescue mentality attitude, I just have to
enquire, "Where's the beef?"

If you really wish to redeem yourself after your humiliating failure
compounded by all your beforehand bragging you have but one choice. That is
just shut your pie hole next time you attempt such a thing. Don't say a word
about it until and unless you get the job done next time you try. I, Wilbur
Hubbard, don't expect there will never be a foundering and I know full well
that an occasional foundering may well be due to an 'act of God' but I never
will accept a foundering because of crew ignorance, inexperience and fear
which is the only reason Red Cloud foundered. The state of the wind and sea
were nothing exceptional and the conditions were such that any real seaman
would have taken them in stride.


Wilbur Hubbard