On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 06:45:42 +0100, "Steve Leyland"
wrote:
Once upon a time in a magickal land far far away the being called Gregory
Hall stirred from its deep slumber and pronounced to usenet:
: Thanks, Joe. I couldn't have said it better myself. Gloria thanks
: you, too. Her first post other than one to alt.test is held up for
: public ridicule and called abuse when it clearly was NOT abuse. It
: was clearly stated at the bottom of her post that it was her
: "opinion." I have yet to see an AUP that prohibits stating an
: opinion, have you?
:
: Then the same person who calls opinion abuse proceeds to gloat in
: public about his knowing Gloria and Greg are one and the same. How
: can he know that from ONE post from his fascist free server? He
: cannot.
:
: BUSTED!!!!
:
: He obviously shared information with the BananaBoi or some other
: admin but not the Altopia Admin because Chris Caputo has high ethical
: standards and would not reveal personal information without a
: subpoena.
:
: Beware free news servers. They have no ethical standards and it's
: becoming very obvious that this is the case. They openly gloat about
: it for gawd's sake! Sad that this blight on Usenet is allowed to
: fester. I wonder what the meow army would think about this real abuse
: of Usenet by free news server netKKKop types?
methinks perchance the admin of mixmin has been fooled by the oh so
convincing whining of the serial netKKKop jonathan ganz, as were those of
many ISP and paid NSPs in the past.
ganz has been proven to abusively use multiple identities in his many
unfounded reports to abuse desks in his feeble attempts to control usenet
and I would guess that some of these new free newserver admins don't pay
too much attention to investigating actual abuse of the network as opposed
to mere verbal abuse on the net. come back mike and robb! steve at mixmin,
your service just became a joke dude - you don't ****can a poster just for
flaming.
if you want true freedom of speech these days with an admin who cares about
usenet and has a clue it seems you'll have to pay a small amount for it,
sad but true. databasix or altopia.
octanews, man. octanews.
:
: "Joe Schmoe" wrote in message
: ...
: : It appears that the admin of a free server (promising anonymity) has
: : revealed information about one of its users, possibly in a willful
: : and malicious manner. The post in question is redisplayed he
: :
: :
: : Path:
: : news.wiretrip.org!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.n et!not-for-mail
: : From: Steve
: : Newsgroups: alt.free.newsservers
: : Subject: Att: Greg Hall
: : Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:40:23 +0000 (UTC)
: : Organization: Mixmin
: : Lines: 14
: : Message-ID:
: : References:
: : NNTP-Posting-Host: da8d3a6a19fa02f9a10120a1477aeb90
: : Mime-Version: 1.0
: : Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
: : Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
: : X-Complaints-To:
: : NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:40:23 +0000 (UTC)
: : User-Agent: slrn/pre0.9.9-111 (Linux)
: :
: : On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:13:20 -0400, Mike wrote in
: : Message-Id: :
: :
: : : Free speech exists due to the unrelenting vigilance of people
: : : such as Greg
: : : Hall. I'm sure others will take the time to thank you for the
: : : great service
: : : you are doing. God Bless you!
: :
: : Free speech doesn't extend to Greg using my free service to post
: : abuse
: : to Usenet using sock puppets called "Gloria".
: :
: : --
: : pub 1024D/228761E7 2003-06-04 Steven Crook
: : Key fingerprint = 1CD9 95E1 E9CE 80D6 C885 B7EB B471 80D5
: : 2287 61E7 uid Steven Crook
: :
: : The supposed "infraction" occured on another newsgroup. Why is this
: : information being made public here or anywhere?
: :
: : Apparently privacy, confidentiality, anonymity are just buzzwords
: : with these freeservers. This could even be in violation of the law.
: :
: : Now who would want to use a freeserver were the administrator runs
: : about giving information to the public about your use?
: :
: : The second big question is: Where did the ISP info come from so the
: : admin could verify the user? Obviously from another freeserver.
: :
: : So there you have it - freeservers sharing client information back
: : and forth.
: :
: : Now this is a Euro thing since they know little about freedom and
: : nothing about the American way. Not only did Americans fight for
: : their own freedom, they did it more than once to free Europe from
: : the messes they voted themselves into (ja, der fuhrer vas elekted).
: : It's more like "arbiet mach freeserver" over there.
: :
: : If you value your confidentiality and want to use a professional
: : service look to America, specifically look at Altopia. The owner
: : knows and understands liberty and freedom. He respects his paying
: : customers. He won't divulge information about them, he handles
: : problems behind a closed door, courteously and respectfully. The
: : service is always running and always reliable. We can all sleep
: : better at night knowing that some of the profits goes to electing
: : those who know, understand and cherish freedom. God bless Altopia
: : and the American way!
: :
: : For those worried about their freeservers revealing their info
: : publicly I would suggest looking into the laws of your country.
--
dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
"i believe that the word "****head" has become so wide spread and
nearly meaningless as to qualify as a metavariable, similar to "foo"
and "bar". and that it should uphold the responsibilities and enjoy
the privileges of the new office. here here!!"
-dave hillstrom