Eisboch wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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GM,. FORD, Etc. Are in deep trouble because of the fixed costs. A major
one is retiree medical costs. Yes they were poorly run. Years ago, when
they had most of the worlds car markets, they gave the unions anything
they asked for. Has come back to bite them in the ass. Toyota, etc.
assembling cars here in the US, have not been here long enough to have
much in the retiree line. GM's union manual is 1000's of pages. defines
all the job categories and what that category can do. Toyotas is about
100 pages and they can require a worker to what ever job is required.
From putting doors on to sweeping the floor. Must better negotiators.
When they should have layed off people, they kept 1000's on the payroll
per union agreements. They did no work. Bad management is correct.



According to people like Harry, GM and Ford didn't give the unions enough.


Eisboch



What *I* stated was that the U.S. car makers were poorly managed, with
overpaid white collar mid and upper management. Many large U.S.
corporations grossly overcompensate "management." There have been plenty
of news stories about the tens of millions of dollars paid to top execs
at the same time the companies they run are failing.



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