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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:31:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
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I have a 2005 version of that same truck and it will barely tow
my
Ranger 20' 200 C center console - boat, engine, trailer weigh
in at
just over 5,000 lbs. I get 5 mpg on average over 900 miles of
towing
just last week and the average speed was 50 mph.

Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.
Hmmm. Apples and oranges, but when I pull Yo Ho, I get about 12
mpg
with my V8 SUV. I think we are pulling about the same weight,
too.
Of course it does.

You are the master.
My old 24 ft cuddy cabin runabout weighed a little over 5,000 lbs,
6300 lbs with aluminum trailer. We trailered it 1400 miles from
CT to
FL behind my 4.7L V8 Tundra, averaging 9 mph at interstate highway
speeds of 65 to 70 mph.

Funny you mention the Tundra. I've been resisting an itch to go
trade the little Ranger in on one. If I cave, I'll go for the 5.7
liter engine (381 hp). It actually is rated to get better mpg
than the 4.7 liter, although not by much.

So far, I've successfully resisted the urge. The little Ranger
does everything I need for now. But ... damn it's tough when you
get bored and need a new toy.

Eisboch

Talked to a guy at a Yosemite campground with a new Tundra. He said
the mileage was about 14 coming from San Diego to Tuolumne Meadows.
The new Hybrid Silverado got a good write up in Car and Driver or
what ever car mag I was reading at the Dermatologist this morning.
20 mpg city / highway.
But where will you get parts when GM goes out of business?
The ever present ray of sunshine.

Just how long do you think the US automakers will last, not as
corporate entities or shells, but as actual companies building actual
products in the United States?

GM is trading at about $11. Ford reported losses yesterday of $9
billion for the quarter. Only god knows what Chrysler's real numbers
are.

Which one do you think will fold first?





Why do I sense that you enjoy seeing major US companies in trouble. What
country are you rooting for to come out on top? Why are you so down on
the US? Why are you so negative in general? According to you, you are
quite well to do. It doesn't make sense that you are prospering while
being so hateful. There are lots of inconsistencies with your stories.


You beat me to it.


The U.S. auto companies are in trouble because their management sucks and
has sucked for years, and they grossly overpay their mid and upper level
white collar workers, as do many American corporations.

I expect the rug will be pulled out from under Chrysler in a year or two,
and perhaps one or more of its brands or product lines sold off to some
other entity. Ford and GM are "multinational" corporations, and the
management there doesn't give a crap whether they make cars in the USA or
not. All three corporations are dumping their blue collar workers in this
country as quickly as they can.

I believe the UAW can share in that blame.