Thanks for the info, I didn't realize McCain wrecked only 5 planes I thought
it was more. As a consequence of him wrecking his plane on the Forrestal
several other planes were destroyed for which McCain deserved full credit.
In doing some further research, GH Bush wrecked a dive-bomber, JFK wrecked
an entire Navy ship and killed some of his men, we can credit McCain with
wrecking the Forrestal too, Eisenhower wrecked countless military vehicles,
Ted wrecked a plane and an Oldsmobile, etc, etc.

McCain and sex scandals, if true he could be impeached as President and
possibly even removed from office. Obviously his private life is not
separate from his professional.

Pilots tend to be superstitious about certain things, what do you think
Karma has in store for one who falsely accuses another of wrecking several
planes that were struck by missiles, one fired from 100 feet away and
another striking the plane while holding course during a bombing dive under
fire? Any thoughts?



OzOne wrote in message news
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 23:27:10 -0400, "Mike"
wrote:

OzOne wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 22:39:43 -0400, "Mike"
wrote:

Name Obama's ten greatest accomplishments.


I suggest you go here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

for an introductory course.

Surely you can do better than Wikipedia. Name 10 accomplishments.



BTW I hear McCain crashes a lot of planes...I think the qoute was
'good party animal, lousy pilot'



What is your proof? His father, also John ("Slew") McCain, crashed 5
planes.
You must be confused with him. McCain is a better pilot than Obama, and if
he is known as a party animal that's great - the guy can loosen up. Are
you
ignorant of Naval fighter pilot culture?

John McCain:
Unfit to serve as Commander-In-Chief
The spoiled son of military privilege got a free ride throughout his
military career despite repeated instances of sex scandals and
screw-ups
By Ted Sampley
U.S. Veteran Dispatch
January 27, 2008

John Sidney McCain III entered the United States Naval Academy at
Annapolis, Maryland in 1954. Young McCain wanted to become an admiral.
He planned to be the "first son and grandson of four star admirals" to
achieve such a distinction. But that was not to be. McCain III
possessed none of the innate character and discipline traits that
helped mold his father and grandfather into great military leaders.

His father, John S. "Junior" McCain, and grandfather, John S. McCain,
Sr., were famous four-star Admirals in the U.S. Navy. His father
commanded U.S. forces in Europe before becoming commander of American
forces fighting in Vietnam. His grandfather commanded naval aviation
at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945. Both men became highly influential
in U.S. Navy operations.

At the Academy, aside being known as a "rowdy, raunchy, underachiever"
who resented authority, Midshipman McCain became infamous as a leader
among his fellow midshipmen for organizing "off-Yard activities" and
hard drinking parties. Robert Timberg wrote in his book, The
Nightingale's Song, that "being on liberty with John McCain was like
being in a train wreck."

McCain's grades were "marginal." He drew so many demerits for breaking
curfew and other discipline issues that he graduated fifth from the
bottom of the class of 1958. Despite his low "class standing," and no
doubt because of the influence of his family of famous Admirals,
McCain was leap-frogged ahead of more qualified applicants and granted
a coveted slot to be trained as a navy pilot.

Good Party Animal - Bad Pilot:

He spent the next two and a half years as a "naval aviator in
training" at Naval Air Station Pensacola in Florida and Naval Air
Station Corpus Christi in Texas, flying A-1 Skyraiders.

While a pilot trainee, McCain continued to party hard. He drove a
Corvette and dated an exotic dancer named "Marie the Flame of
Florida." Timberg wrote that McCain "learned to fly at Pensacola,
though his performance was below par, at best good enough to get by.
He liked flying, but didn't love it."

McCain Lost Five Military Aircraft

McCain, the "below par" pilot, eventually lost 5 military aircraft,
the first during a training flight in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus
Christi Bay while trying to land. The Navy ignored the crash and
graduated McCain in 1960.

While deployed in the Mediterranean, the hard partying McCain lost a
second aircraft. Timberg described the crash: "Flying too low over the
Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate
of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son
of an admiral."

Unscathed, McCain returned to Pensacola Station where he was promoted
to flight instructor for Naval Air Station Meridian in Mississippi.
The airfield at Meridian, McCain Field, was named in honor of McCain's
grandfather.

In 1964 McCain became involved with Carol Shepp, a model from
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, he had met at Annapolis. They were married
in Philadelphia on July 3, 1965.

Flight instructor McCain lost a third aircraft while flying a Navy
trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game. Timberg
wrote that McCain radioed, "I've got a flameout" before ejecting at
one thousand feet. McCain parachuted onto a beach moments before his
plane slammed into a clump of trees.

The Navy dismissed the crash as "unavoidable" and assigned McCain to
the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal in December 1966, which was
patrolling the Mediterranean Sea and Atlantic Ocean. In Spring 1967,
the Forrestal was assigned to join the Operation Rolling Thunder
bombing campaign against North Vietnam.

McCain lost his fourth plane on board the Forrestal on July 29, 1967
when a rocket inadvertently slammed into his bomb laden jet. McCain
escaped, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors. McCain
was transferred from the badly damaged Forrestal to the USS Oriskany.
Shortly afterwards, on Oct. 26, 1967, he was shot down and captured by
the Vietnamese.

Post-POW Years: Political Ambition and a New, Young, Rich Wife

Upon his release from North Vietnam and return to the United States in
1973, McCain reunited with his wife, Carol, who had been permanently
crippled in a car accident while he was a POW.

Still yearning to become an admiral, McCain enrolled in the National
War College at Fort McNair in Washington, D.C. and underwent physical
therapy in order to fly again. The Navy excused his permanent
disabilities and reinstated him to flight status, effectively
positioning him for promotion.

Timberg described McCain's advancement: "in the fall of 1974, McCain
was transferred to Jacksonville as the executive officer of
Replacement Air Group 174, the long-sought flying billet at last a
reality. A few months later, he assumed command of the RAG, which
trained pilots and crews for carrier deployments. The assignment was
controversial, some calling it favoritism, a sop to the famous son of
a famous father and grandfather, since he had not first commanded a
squadron, the usual career path."

While Executive Officer and later as Squadron Commander McCain used
his authority to arrange frequent flights that allowed him to carouse
with subordinates and "engage in extra-marital affairs."

This was a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice rules
against adultery and fraternization with subordinates. But, as with
all his other past behaviors, McCain was never penalized; instead he
always got away with his transgressions.

Timberg wrote, "Off duty, usually on routine cross-country flights to
Yuma and El Centro, John started carousing and running around with
women. To make matters worse, some of the women with whom he was
linked by rumor were subordinates . . . At the time the rumors were so
widespread that, true or not, they became part of McCain's persona,
impossible not to take note of."

In early 1977, Admiral Jim Holloway, Chief of Naval Operations
promoted McCain to captain and transferred him from his command
position "to Washington as the number-two man in the Navy's Senate
liaison office. McCain was promptly given total control of the office.
It wasn't long before the "fun loving and irreverent" McCain had
turned the liaison office into a "late-afternoon gathering spot where
senators and staffers, usually from the Armed Services and Foreign
Relations committees, would drop in for a drink and the chance to
unwind."

In 1979, while attending a military reception in Hawaii, McCain met
and fell in love with Cindy Lou Hensley, 17 years his junior, who was
the daughter of James W. Hensley, a wealthy Anheuser-Busch distributor
from Phoenix, Arizona. McCain filed for and obtained an uncontested
divorce from his wife in Florida on April 2, 1980 and promptly married
Cindy on May 17, 1980.

He resigned from the Navy in 1981 and went to work for his
father-in-law in Phoenix; where he used the opportunity to make
powerful and wealthy friends in Arizona including banker Charles
Keating and Duke Tully, the editor-in-chief of the Arizona Republic.
Keating was later convicted of fraud, racketeering, and conspiracy and
Tully was disgraced for concocting a phony military record of combat
in Korea and Vietnam including medals for heroism.

McCain ran for Arizona's First Congressional District in 1982. McCain
won the congressional seat. In 1987 McCain was elected to the Senate.




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