On Jun 26, 10:54*am, Bob wrote:
On Jun 26, 5:08*am, Skip Gundlach wrote:

Did you looka at a chart. Somtimes charts have that info
Well, actually, we did......*and, finally, the Cap'n, did I find,
drilling down to a 0.5mile view in the Cap'n, that it was soft shale.

You did not mention the Coast Pilot. Not sure which # yould use on the
east side of the states but I find the CP No. 7 a treasure trove of
nautical help. Get a couple and read it before you get underway.
NOw for the chart issue. I think you have just stumbled into one of
the problmes with "maps" paper or elctronic and why crusiing guides
have that "not intended for mavigation" disclaimer. A person needs
LOCAL/SMALL scale chart to get the bottom type symbols. Larger scale
charts wont have bottom type symbols.

But a person may ot even need the more detailed "local" charts if
thier able to read the surounding land.After spending some time under
water in llitoral areas it amazing how shore type reflests bottom
type.

We usually rely on the charts' little notes for bottom stuff - but
until I did it a couple of days ago, at leisure, I couldn't find it.
No biggie, in any event, as we hove to...
Im not a very good reader and may have missed that point in you
description.

Nope, you didn't miss anything, other than, perhaps, that before
heaving to, we made sure to get to deep water and out of the potential
way of any hard objects - and by the way, also very far off the beaten
track as to traffic of any sort, let alone shipping.

I am a tree hugging liberal member of the Democratic Party. The
president of the United States is an imbarrasment. Given that I am a
consevitive.

ColReg Rule 5: Lookout
It is there for a reason.

Aside from the oceans boat traveling Ive in the last two years ive
flown to Hawaii 4-5 times. Each time I have seen traffic: tugs,
sailboats, cargo, aircraft carrier....

My current read is "cruising in seraffyn" and whaddya know? *On Page
35, off the coast of Isla Guadaloupe, it reads:
I don't know about you, but I rely on the good sense of people like
Lin and Larry,

I too have read their stuff and have on one occasion met Mr. Purdy. I
find him to be an arrogant ass, sexist pig, and very experienced
mariner. I am amazed his personality has not got him into trouble yet.
But maybe he doesnt make it into his books or talking points

My Dear Skip,

Reading your post I find that:

1) you were not able to use charts or other means availible to
determine bottom type.
2) have violated a basic fundamental rule of vessel operation, failure
to maintain a PROPER LOOKOUT. this point is even more egregious
because adequate crew was available to act as Lookout.

Please remember that you have a large boat with lots of life on board.
I urge you to take that *responsibility more seriously.

After reviewing this post again two words come to mind: cavalier and
lackadaisical.

Cordially and in friendhip,
Bob

Well it least Bob got one thing right, you do need a lookout as your
boat was underway Skip. How you could sleep is beyond me.

Fred