On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 23:01:48 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

At 62 degrees, I wear a shorty suit while surfing. And that is about the
minimum temp I will use a shorty in. When I used to skin dive and scuba, I
had 1/4 farmer john suit and I still got cold in the 55 degree Pacific.

The only time I've ever been "cold" was on a ice dive while training
for ice rescue. The course was up at Lake Champlain and the ice was
about two foot thick. We went in with full dry suits, Gore-tex long
Johns, sweat shirt/pants and electric socks - still froze my ass off.

Man that was cold. However walking upside down under the ice more
than made up for it. :)

I can say that one other time, I was literally knocked out senseless
at Lake Alexander in Dayville, CT. Dive team drill/body recovery
drill thing. What none of us knew was there was a spring in the
deepest part of the lake and that was our search area - 30 feet under
tow we hit that spring and the temp dropped 20 degrees instantly.

I swear I almost passed out. :)