On Mar 13, 1:02*am, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 12, 8:59*pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote:

Our lack of immigration controls lets other countries dump their
undesirables on us.

Your boy Bush did nothing to control immigration, and won't. His
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harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the
way back to FDR and before.

Nope. *INS raids and deportations were common in Chicago factories in
the 60's and 70's. *If a cop figured you were illegal, he held you for
the feds and they put you on a plane out of here.
Besides that, you waited in line to legally emigrate, had to have a
sponsor who had an address and some money in the bank.
I know, because I sponsored my wife's family, who came from Poland.
She came much earlier, being sponsored by an uncle who himself got
here through an arduous process after working for American forces in
Germany right after WWII.
It took us years to get the wife's family here. *
They were industrious and did quite well, never on the dole or street
corner selling drugs.
Don't know exactly when INS fell apart, but Reagan granted amnesty to
some millions of illegals, and it's been downhill from there.
The info is probably on the net, but I ain't going.

really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame
arguement?

Nope. Unless he hasn't been Commander-In-Chief for the last seven
years and done virtually nothing but propose amnesty.
Lou Dobbs and some smart Republicans kicked his ass for that.
Clinton was just as bad, but that's no excuse for Bush.
How's the illegal situation down there, Tim?
Can you do gigs at any cantinas, if you wear a poncho?
If you get a chance, watch a movie called Delta Farce.
Some hilarious scenes.

--Vic

vic, don't get me wrong, I'm not sayig Bush shouldn't have done
something by now, but was like you said about Clinton. I'm not
singling bubba out either. That's what I was refering back to FDR and
further back.

It seems (to me) that no POTUS has really taken immigration reform to
heart.

Haven't seen Delta Force. I'll have to look for it.