On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:26:36 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I've sailed with Doug and Bart, so I can put them in the first category. As
to the second, it seems rather obvious.

The last time I saw Doug he was racing up the Caloosahatchie River in
a powerboat at close to 40 kts and leaving a wake. That was last
Saturday.