HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 15, 10:25?am, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:36:55 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould





wrote:
On Feb 15, 9:11?am, BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 15, 7:27?am, wrote:
On Feb 15, 9:40?am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
These are the Black Leaders in Congress and the Democratic
Party. ?I am
surprised it took them that long to respond to the obvious
race baiting
of the Clintons'.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=4295602&page=1
I am afraid that Bill's legacy will be having trashed his wifes
campaign. Amazing how one slip can change history. With
Dean, it was a
three second scream, with Billary, it was a three second
sentence
about the SC primaries and Jessi Jackson.... who I predict
will soon
endorse Obama, then it is finished for Billary.
Don't count her out so fast.
It would be just like either one of the political parties to
circumvent the will of the people. The "good ol' boys" of the
D party,
the super-delegates, are very likely to fall into line and
let the
party elite, vs. the majority of the general membership, have
the
final word on the identity of the nominee.
If Hillary wins the Texas and Ohio primaries, and then the
Pennsylvania
primary, the delegate count will be just about even, and at
that point I
would think a nominee selected at the convention would be the
best bet.
If, she whens Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania it will be a
miracle. She
will win none of those states.
It doesn't matter to me whether the nominee is Hillary or
Barack. I do
wonder sometimes if Barack is tough enough to face down the
nasty, dirty
type of counter campaigning the Republicans surely will throw
at him.
The extreme righties are already out there against him, with
the typical
idiotic right-wing claims (he's a muslim! he's a pan-African!
his father
was a Kenyan!) that seem to work so well on low IQ voters.
Did Barak Obama ever attend a Muslim school? Has he ever
expressed views
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Yes to all of the above. Although the Muslim school was not a
militant
school and in the particular country where he lived at the time all
public education was underwritten my the Islamic government. I
guess
that since some of the IRA bombers went to Catholic schools in
Ireland
we should suspect anybody who ever attended a Catholic school
(or had
an Irish name like McVeigh) of being a bomb thrower. Same ?logic.
If there is anybody some members of the right wing are more
predisposed to hate than a person of color it would have to be a
Muslim.
While Obama attends a Christian church, he is the son of a
Muslim and
that will certainly be close enough for jazz when the negative
campaigning begins in earnest.
I've heard more than one right wing radio host make a big deal
about
Obama's middle name, "Hussein." One day, I heard Rush simply
referring
to him as "Hussein Obama." I'm sure that's a very mild preview
of what
the right wing has in store for Obama should he be the final
nominee.
I'm old enough, as are many of us, to clearly remember all the
folks
who trashed John Kennedy for being Catholic. Not that Obama is a
Kennedy in any sense; except that JFK could be an inspiring
orator as
can Obama.
It's going to be a very UGLY campaign.
Here's hoping the good folks on rec.boats don't get too heavily
invested in the rhetoric and propaganda.
I've not heard Russ use that name for Obama. But I don't get to
listen to
him as much as, apparently, you do.

Yes, it may get ugly, and it may get ugly here. You don't think
your post,
above, would be contributing to the ugliness, do you?

You seem to say some pretty negative things about 'right wingers'
above,
Chuck. I doubt if I'm any more 'predisposed' to hate blacks than
you are. I
also doubt that I'm even more 'predisposed' to hate Muslims than
you are.

Which is why I directed my comment toward "some" right wingers.
As it would be the right wing, not the left wing, that opposes Obama
should he be nominated, the attitudes of that some portion of the
right wing will be an issue.

Some portion of the left wing is probably also prejudiced against a
vairety of races and or religions. However, the left wing won't be
campaigning against Obama - the right wing will. That makes the
attitude of some right wingers pertinent to a discussion of the
challenges Obama would face in the final stretch.


But, I'm sure your post wasn't designed to inflame anyone's
passions. Just
a little innocent discussion, right?

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How's the salt water fishing this time of year in your part of the
country, Chuck?

Trying the hypocrisy angle for a while?



Been out boating lately, Quacky? What was the water temp? Were you
fishing? Got anything on-topic to post?

I don't know if John H is going to be happy or upset about your change
of heart.



As if I give a flying f*ch about Herring's happiness.

I'm trying to talk my wife into accompanying me up to Bass Pro Shops
near Baltimore today or tomorrow. It's a great store, as I am sure you
must know, but the mall it is in, huge as it is, has very little to
offer. I like the Bass Pro shop in Norfolk better, though. It seems to
have more stuff and better clothing sales. But it is a three hour drive,
and even I won't go that far for fishing gear.


Aren't there enough local, non-mass merchant evil corporation, tackle
shops in your area?