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JoeSpareBedroom

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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:34:29 -0500, John H.
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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:55:26 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:46:04 -0500, HK wrote:

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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:03:52 -0500, "Eisboch"
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:29:10 -0500, "Eisboch"
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Abortion was never murder before Roe vs Wade. Never

According to who?

Eisboch

The laws. We are a nation of laws. Remember?
Laws simply reflect current social values, morals and opinions.
They
are often modified, changed or eliminated as society changes.

Eisboch

And the laws of our nation have NEVER equated abortion with murder

Q.E.D.

50.1 percent say it is not murder and 49.9 percent say it is murder.
That is the margin for deeming it not murder in codified law. Oops it
is
not the legislature that enacted a law it is an edict from the SCOTUS.

Send the issue back to the state legislatures and let each state
determine what abortion is or is not.

Too late. This fall, challenges to Roe v. Wade will begin the journey to
becoming buried, because either President Clinton or President Obama
will nominate pro-choice associate justices, and the Democratic Senate
will confirm them.

You anti-abortionists are a panic. You're "pro-life" until a fetus is
born and then most of you don't give a crap whether the kid lives or
dies or what kind of life it lives. You join the military and are more
than willing to killing women and children and burn villages, and you're
pro death penalty.

What a crock of absolute crap most of you are.

At its base your "pro-life-ness" is little more than your slightly
repressed Freudian fear of sexuality and your need to control women.

If Roe vs Wade ever gets overturned, abortion will STILL not be murder
under the law. We are a nation of laws, or at least that's what the
right wing kooks tell us whenever it suits their own agenda.

"...under the law." Keep saying that.

Are you a criminal? You are beginning to sound like someone who
doesn't believe in our democracy, our country or it's laws.

Abortion and gun control are two issues politicians use to lead residents
(but not citizens) around, in the same way you lead a kitten all over the
room using a shiny toy on a string. They appear to be simple issues with
clear-cut answers, so residents (but not citizens) think they're "deciders".
Then, they think "Well, that's enough decidin' for this year. I wonder
what's on TV."

Issues like these are a good tool to distract residents (but not citizens)
from things which are more likely to actually bite them in the ass in the
future, like the patriot act. Why think when someone's already done it for
you?

John is a resident.