On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:37:32 -0500, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
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Eisboch wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "HK"
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:03 AM
Subject: Hillay bites the dust



Yet another reason why I prefer *closed* primaries and secret
ballot voting, as opposed to open primaries, which encourage
crossovers, and caucuses, which encourage group vote, not secret
ballot vote.

Yet, you are a fan of "brokered" conventions?

Eisboch


I like the rough and tumble of tight primary races and conventions
in which delegates make a difference, and have to vote many times
in order to select a delegate. A good convention is like a
microcosm of the House of Representatives, with the delegates
elected by the people back home working for consensus. It's not the
same animal as a caucus.

Today's conventions are just too antiseptic for my taste.


That's all fine, good and healthy if it weren't for the "Super
Delegates" who don't necessarily have the backing of the people back
home. That's where the "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours"
deals are made.

Eisboch



The super delegates as a group will support the will of the voters
and their delegates. If Hillary doesn't do very well in Texas, Ohio,
and Pennsylvania, it is all over for her.

What is the original purpose of the super delegates. Why do they
exist? What problem(s) do they solve to justify their existence?

For the Democrat party, which wants to be called the Democratic party,
to use super delegates to select their nominee to the Presidency is
laughable due to it not being a democratic process.


Read a book, d.f., and become enlightened.

I really do not understand why an educated man such as yourself Harry
puts up with this den of idiocy and stupidity? Wouldn't it suite your
stature and place to go to group more worthy of your intellect,
intelligence and general presence?

I will assume that since you will not answer the question about super
delegates it is due to the fact that the DNC wants to make sure that the
leadership of the party controls the nominating process. Great way to
get the nominee to accede to the will of the party leadership rather
than the will of the people. Democratic Party? You have got to be kidding.



There is the matter of 'cojones'.
--
John H