On Jan 26, 7:55*pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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It's an absolutely honest answer. The Dems got their intel from the Bush
Admin.

In 1998?

Eisboch

Whatever information Clinton had in 1998 wasn't enough for him to decide
to invade Iraq, depose Saddam, and set up an ersatz "democracy."

Because of Sandy Berger we will never know, could be he knew plenty
and did not have the nards to do what was right. So your point is
legitimatly debatable. What we do know is there was something worth
Berger's life and freedom that needed to be purged. For that much
risk, it must have been something big.


You fellows keep missing the real points.

One of them is that it was Bush, not Clinton, that had the hard on to
invade, even before he presumed office,

Honestly debatable

and it was the Bush Admin that
cooked the books to "justify" an invasion,

Debatable

it was the Bush Admin that
decided to invade "light" of the necessary troops to handle the
aftermath, and it has been the Bush Admin that has screwed up just about
everything in and about Iraq since.

An opinion you hold but still debatable. Before the war ever started I
said it would take a generation to end this war, 20 years. I remember
and you could probably google my analagy to the K*K here in the us,
who through mass communication and education, has been diminished to
no more than a pesky group of old diehards with no teeth... If we
continue to support freedom, spread the wealth (which means btw we
might have to all slim down a little (pretty progressive don'cha'
think?)), fundamentalist killers (these are not religeos men, no
matter what they say) can suffer the same fate. So again, are we
winning? Depends on your timeline, mine has always been a little more
forward looking if not as pleasant.. either way, it can succeed...


And what have we learned about Bush bringing "democracy" to the Arab
world? When you give them elections, they elect Hamas.

And Hamas will find itself in a positition of self advocacy, if they
only have free economys to deal with, they too will adapt. Look at
China


Bush is the worst president in this country's history, and he's going to
prove it every day until he is out of office.

Again, debatable, and this time, I think you are in a very slim
minority in the view of legitimate scholors of presidential history...
which, snerk you are not...

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Billary, the most sold out Whitehouse in history....