On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:13:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:11:57 -0000, wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:19:48 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


Have you ever considered that bin Laden, as an individual, is *not*
important. What is important is the world-wide, religiously based
uprising against anything or anybody not believing in fundamental
Islam.
Bin Laden may be a vocal centerpiece and symbol, but he by himself is
not that important.

If you are saying the jihad will go on without bin Laden, I wouldn't
disagree, but that doesn't make bin Laden unimportant. He's more than a
symbol. He's the man behind the murder of 3,000 Americans, and the fact
that he is still breathing free air says something quite profound about
us, doesn't it?


Yeah, it says we decided not to invade Pakistan.


I agree. The politics and logistics of the "hunt" is very complex.
There's always the danger of causing more chaos in the world than that
already existing. If GWB acted like the "cowboy" that his critics claim
he is, he would have ignored Pakistan's soveriency claims and sent the
troops in to capture or kill bin Laden. It may have accomplished a short
term goal but would have set off another major crisis.


Psssst! Can I tell you a little secret? GWB already ignores the sovereignty
of other countries. Please don't say silly things about how we should
respect the sovereignty of other countries. If you insist on saying silly
things like that, then you need to explain how the invasion of Iraq fits
your definition of respecting sovereignty.

People easily forget. They forget things like +3000 killed on 9/11.
They forget that justified blood lust for Bin Laden ran high.
They forget that no world leader would deny the U.S. pursuit of Bin
Laden, where ever to chose to run.
They forget that when the CIA agent got killed in the "John Walker"
prison riot, he was eulogized to high heaven, but the last 1000 GI's
blown up by IED's in Iraq died forgotten by all but their loved ones.
They even forget that Tora Bora is in Afghanistan, not Pakistan.
Yet they have no problem in instinctively knowing that calling the
tribal wife-beating Afghan savages who let Bin Laden escape into
Pakistan - maybe purposely - ragheads is just so so naughty.
Go figure. Time moves on.

--Vic