On Dec 20, 10:45 pm, Dave wrote:
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:31:23 GMT, said:

I believe they can then take you "downtown" to see about establishing
your identity.

You believe wrong. That would be an arrest. An arrest may not be made
without probable cause to believe you have committed a crime.
You do have to Identifiy yourself if asked, but you don't have to
carry ID.
brown v. texas



At that point, you would be foolish to escalate things
by trying to walk away. If you are a holder of a drivers license, you
are required by law to show it to any LEO upon request. You agreed to
that when you got the license. Be smart, and carry it, Dave.

Only if driving [engaging in commerce].

You may have so agreed. I didn't.

In some localities they could also charge you with vagrancy if you
didn't have some money on you.

Those laws were held unconstitutional over 40 years ago. Believe it or not,
you can't make it a crime to be penniless.
If you have an ID [14th amendment citizenship establishment ID] then
you
don't have to carry money.
Contrarywise, If you have $20 in you pocket [gold OR silver] then
you've
established yourself as a freeman [as opposed to 14th Amend. Citizen/
slave]
and your word is bond [you don't need to carry ID cards].