"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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John Gaquin wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message

So? Are you saying the drop in marriage results from allowing gay
marriage?

Not specifically. I think (no data) it results from the perceived
general
devaluation of marriage as a solid, stable societal institution.


About 50% of the marriages in this country end in divorce, and I
suspect

The "whatever" attitude that results in a 50% divorce rate is, imo,
part
of
the same cultural ambivalence. I wonder how many couples actually
read
and
think about the marriage vows they speak.



I don't see it as redefinition as much as inclusion.

It's a redefinition to effect an inclusion, and the question is "Why?"
The
central nut of public policy management is to provide the greatest
good
for
the greatest number. Why discommode 97% of the population to the
benefit of
3%?



It does no harm. The fact that marriage ain't what it used to be isn't
the result of homosexuality or gay marriage.

It's the result of moral decay in our society. It's the result of
Americans
changing the social "norm" to suit their desires, rather than allowing
their
desires to be guided by social norms.



Nonsense, tooth-boy. Assuming 97% of the population is straight, are their
desires going to change because of a new definition of "couple-ness" for
gays who are on the verge of spending their lives together as a household?
As far as I'm concerned, if the gay couple next door wants to make their
union legal, it has absolutely no effect on me.

In fact, I've just made an inaccurate statement. In reality, if the gay
couple wants to pay more taxes like other married people, that's their
business.

When my son has friends over, there's a rule here. If they're going to go
into deep television vegetable mode, I reserve the right to interject one
entire news program. When Bush's legislation was whacked last week, I asked
3 kids what they thought of it. Unanimous answer: A waste of time and effort
when there are more important things to do in Washington. Better watch out.
In three years, these intelligent kids will be ready to vote. My son: "The
dickhead's trying to distract us from the fact that he wants me to get shot
at when I'm 18".