On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:09:23 +0000, BinaryBil wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 21:03:26 -0700, "Lloyd Sumpter" wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 20:33:59 +0000, kcb559 wrote:

(kcb559) wrote in message . com...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message link.net...
"kcb559" wrote in message


Tom

SO, BASICALLY A DEEP CYCLE BATTERY AND A TROLLING BATTERY ARE THE SAME
THING AND WILL BOTH LAST ME LONGER (DUE TO THE NUMBER OF RECHARGES
AVAILABLE)THAN A STARTING BATTERY; HOWEVER, WITH THAT SMALL ENDURA 30,
A STARTING BATTERY WOULD WORK OKAY (ALTHOUGH IT WOULDN'T LAST AS LONG)
IF I KEPT THE SPEED DOWN AND DIDN'T ASK IT TO WORK TOO HARD. IS THAT
ABOUT IT?
-KCB

No, the starting battery will be very prone to failure after the 2 or 3rd
recharge. The plates warp and short out. If you get a Wal-mart or some
other 6 month full replacement battery, you may be ok on your money, but
every couple of months you will have to take the battery in. The difference
in price is negligible. A deep cycle group 27 at Costco is about $53.
Group 24 a couple of bucks cheaper. Wally world is probably in the same
price range.
Bill

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I was in Wal*Mart the other day and their starting batteries carry a
TWO-YEAR FREE REPLACEMENT warranty. Wonder how many batteries before
they'd get tired of giving me yet another new one? 5, 10, 15? LOL...
-KCB


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OKAY, I'VE FINALLY MADE A DECISION. I'M BUYING A DEEP CYCLE BATTERY.
NOW, NEXT ITEM...A 24 OR A 27 SERIES TO USE WITH THE MINN KOTA ENDURA
30? ALSO, AMP HOURS? IF I RUN THAT LITTLE ELECTRIC TROLLING MOTOR AT
MIDDLE SPEED WITH EACH, APPROXIMATELY WHAT WOULD I NEED IN AMP HOURS
TO TOOL AROUND THAT LAKE FOR 4 HOURS?

-KCB

This is something I'm going to research and post my findings on the web
(or sell them to Minn Kota!). The closest thing to "amp-hrs" that they
admit to is "max amps", but it doesn't make sense (the 12V, 40-lb motor
supposedly draws more than the 50-lb model!). I will measure current draw
at various speeds for both my 30-lb Endura and 40-lb Maxum.

Until then...The Endura is supposed to draw 30A "max", so say 30A at
setting 5. I THINK, based on the little chart on the top, setting 4 would
be about 15-20A max, 3 would be about 12, 2 maybe 8, and 1 4 (something
like that). So at setting 3, you would use 48 amp-hours in 4 hrs.


More meaningless guesswork from Lloyd, who really hasn't much of a clue. The
Maxum line of motors have an entirely different motor control system. The
Maxum's use PWM and infinitely variable control, (they call it "Maximizer")
while the less expensive and less efficient Endura series use a plain old 5
position switch and resistance to control speed. This makes a HUGE difference in
how long each motor will run at anything other than maximum WOT.


What's the EXACT current draw from A) the 30-lb Endura at position 3, and
B) the 40-lb Maximizer at 60% ?

Lloyd