"DB" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:05:30 -0700, Jeff Burke
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:42:10 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:21:18 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Dec 3, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

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Noticed this item...
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/200...ay-hijack.html

Here, you would just sue Ebay.

Bull****.

I'd say he's got one hell of a case. eBay is responsible for their
servers - they they were hacked, they are responsible.

Usually these things happen when a user gives their password to a
phishing
expedition, not an eBay problem, an idiot problem.

Well, based on my experience with Pay Pal, I certainly have some
questions about their "security".

Up to that point I had never had a Pay Pal account. I wanted to bid
on something I was interested in, so I set one up.

Within two hours, I had four fake Pay Pal emails and that day, had
about ten - all the same, but different addresses.

Then I stared getting eBay messages about paying for items I never bid
on.

I canceled the Pay Pal account, deleted the email account I set up for
it and havne't heard word one since.

I don't think they have any "security".

And if the scammed guy brings up all this in a jury case, the jury may
just award a large amount of punitive damages in addition to the actual
damages. Ebay claims they are just the marketplace, but marketplaces are
also responsible for what happens in thier marketplace.

Have you ever actually filed a lawsuit against a company with a big legal
dept in another state or in this case in another country? I had a simple
money owed lawsuit in the same state which was legally speaking a slam
dunk. The defendant was an individual with a lawyer who was not even
especially bright. The defendant signed contracts agreeing to pay for
services performed. The defendant's own expert witness testified in court
that the services had indeed been performed satisfactorily. The "simple"
suit created 1000 pages+ of documents took 28 months to get to court, 4
more months for the judges decision to come down and 4 more months after
that to collect what I was owed from the start according to signed legally
binding contracts. I was lucky to collect anything. As often as not
defendants turn out to be judgement proof.



You need better lawyers.