On Nov 21, 4:34�pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:59:18 -0600, Vic Smith





wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:07:03 -0500, HK wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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I was at a marina today, talking to a friend heading out for some
feeeshing, and he filled up at $3.65 a gallon. The pump operator said he
had a call from his supplier, who told him the wholesale price was
probably going to go up another 10-15 cents by Monday.

My goodness. �We are just about up to what we paid in Europe 30 years ago.

Eisboch

If you are an average income American, the pump prices are killing your
family's budget.

I worked PT at UPS washing/fueling trucks while I attended college.
In 1976 I was making 10 bucks an hour. �The package loaders/unloaders
were making about 11 bucks, but had a tougher job aside from weather.
Gas - and everything else - was a lot cheaper in 1976.
I was paying a mortgage, had 3 kids and my wife was a housewife, home
with the kids.
With about 165 bucks UPS takehome pay and another 100 from the GI
Bill, we were doing fine.
Went on the UPS website today.
Package guys are now making 8.50 - 9.00 an hour.
Which is a couple bucks less than in 1976.
Progress.

--Vic

And they're probably illegal immigrants. Why should anyone pay more when
the supply is everywhere? Some day someone will figure that out.
--
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And that's exactly why their will never be any serious effort made to
curtail illegal immigration into the US. Even the companies that don't
hire the illegal immigrants benefit from the fact that they lower the
wage bar for all jobs. Skilled construction workers are reduced to $15-
$20 an hour these days, and many of these people have skills capable
of producing high economic value and have taken many years to refine
and perfect them. You can't buy even a run down shack and drive a
decent used car for $30k a year, but who's going to pay more when some
guy who just swam across the border will work for that price and who
may have equally well-developed skills?

About the only time they really round up the illegals hereabouts is if
the employer himself decides to turn them in. The normal practice is
to schedule the raid for a couple of hours before the paychecks are
supposed to passed out on Friday afternoon...... that brings the
actual cost of labor down to $ZERO. Pretty tough to compete with
that. :-(