"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:48:46 -0500, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
Reginald Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Let us all give thanks to Thomas Crapper for this wonderful
invention.

Which is also used on boats, so it's appropriate.

http://www.cwwa.ca/internationalwaterdays_e.asp


If I had a youngster today, I'd advise them to enter a union
apprenticeship program for either plumbing or electrical. No matter
where these society goes, it is going to want indoor plumbing and
electricity.

There's a chance the nuke plant near us might be expanded. If so, it
will mean several years of very high paying work for union plumbers
and electricians, among others. We're talking about $100,000+ a year,
family-supporting jobs for hardworking men and women who have the
skills to do the necessary critical work.


I had a plumber quote me $465 to change the trap under my mothers
sink. I think he is making more than they make at the nuke plant. Of
course, I didn't hire him, I did it myself.



Yeah, well, if you weren't such an a**hole, the plumber might have
charged $125.

I would still do it myself. 20 minutes work and about $10 in supplies.

The nuke plant plumbers are mostly steamfitters.
It takes a lot more education, training, and skill to become a
steamfitter than it does to become a college graduate.

You can learn to be a steamfitter in the military and you can learn to
operate a nuke plant in the military too.

And it doesn't take no 8000 hours!

My brother was a Seabee and was nuclear certified welder. The Navy sent him
to the Hobart school in Ohio for part of the training. HE could weld before
he entered the service as we both grew up working and playing and cleaning a
large machine shop. Dad owned one of the bigger ones in the SF bay area.
No f'n 8000 hours of study to get the N certification. He was one of the
builders of the nuclear reactor at the US Antarctic station. And if you
went to college, you probably spent more than 8000 hours total getting your
degree. How about the 3-4 hours outside classroom for research and homework
for each hour of lecture?