On Nov 14, 5:36 am, Joe wrote:
On Nov 14, 1:32 am, Bob wrote:
On Nov 13, 8:35 pm, Joe wrote:

Since its all about profit, lets try this:
I buy a 81'x24'x12' steel gulf shrimper. Make it my liveaboard. Hell,
rent out a room for $400/mo!


Then the USCG will call you a charter vessel so you better have a
licence and crew


Hi Jo: Im a little confused............... The only diffrence between
my example an yours is that I would have a lorger boat and more beans.
Remember, Im just a guy going to CA and going to buy 180,000 lbs of
beans for personal use and take back to TX. In your example you only
take 10K and later 40,000 lbs of beans.Why would I need a license. The
boats at 177GRT so under 200 GRT and Documented Recreational use.



I don't know anything about the buy-sell price of beans but lets say
ya gross $3.00/pound

No... lets be real and say you gross close to 4 times that for roasted
hand sorted, sun dried, organic gormet coffee delivered in a eco-
friendly way. In a way that foster brand loyality from customers that
demand companies and products be as green and eco-friendly as
possiable. And while doing it you promote enviormental awareness and
feel good about what you are doing.


This is where you need to brush off that MBA you got a few years ago.
"brand Loyality" is a very slippery area of research. Think Organinc,
donkey, Kona coffee at $35/lb. That might give yo a good product
model.

Why try to skirt the law?

I can not belive you just said that! !! ! ! ! ! !! !

That's when people get in trouble. Your
head would start spinning dealing with the restrictions to import
fuel, you get busted doing it I'm sure uncle sam would put you under
the jail and throw away the key.


Yes, fuel.... meat... dairy and a bunch of other products have
"special" needs. But I am still very conserned about using a boat to
haul beans for your business. If you are a business in TX selling
beans. IRS will require your tax ID number and declare any proffit/
loss etc. from sale of beans. WIll you be deducting ANY cost regarding
the boat?

You maybe completely correct about the legal aspect of hauling beans
by boat. However, the advice I got from the attorney and cpa I used
were impeccably conservative when interpreting the various rules,
regs, policy etc. Bottom line I was in business and using a vessel to
conduct commerce. THey both repeated "ya can not have it both ways.
Youre either a tourist bringing personal consuption or a business
hauling commerce." They recommended getting a Coastwise documentations
and fulfilling the rest of the requirements.

But maybe in the GOM thins are a little more lax.
Either way, I'll be down there next season. Hope I run into you. Id
lvoe to shake your hand and have a sample. Hows that coffee go with a
mess of mud bugs?

Soon to be a Coonass again,
Bob

PS The gulf boat example was just a BS idea I had. I tried to pencil-
out how to out compete and haul wheat down the Columbia river with
one. But the Tidewater barges just had toooo much scale to overcome.