On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:08:31 -0500, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

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On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:50:04 -0500, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:


It's so clear that you
have to be a fascist liberal to misinterpret it.


Well, it seems you have misinterpreted fascism. One of it's founding
tenets is anti-liberalism. It is a movement of the *right*.

I do not "misinterpret" anything to do with the English language. I
happen to be an expert on it. Fascism is a political philosophy,
movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race and stands for a
centralized autocratic often militaristic government.

Central, autocratic government is a liberal (socialist) ideal. Read
autocratic as dictatorship. It is far from conservatism which is
considered to be on the right in the current political spectrum. Today's
conservative movement is for smaller, decentralized government and a
strict abiding by the Constitution. I know it's difficult to understand
because today's so-called conservative seems to grow government like
crazy but the conclusion that needs be drawn is Republican doesn't
necessarily equal conservative. On the other hand, Democrat definitely
means liberal. Fascist liberal is a slightly more to the left version of
what we see in today's Democrat party. Believe me, Hillary Rodham is a
fascist.

It is necessary to abide by today's definitions of liberalsim vs.
conservatism - i.e. left vs, right in order to have an intelligent
discussion. Your harkening back to some mythical founding tenet couched
in the past when the terms were defined diferently than they are now is
a lame attempt to misdirect the discussion. Now, go to the back of the
class..

I can see why you consider yourself a sailor. You sure are windy, but a
little confused. Perhaps you will answer me this, if the terms were
defined differently for fascism, a mere 80 years ago, why do you wish to
demand a "strict abiding by the Constitution", a document that is over
200 years old? Were not the terms defined differently then?

If autocratic government is a liberal ideal, why is the greatest threat
to democracy always from the right? The left has a history of
overthrowing kings, and tyrants. The right, a history of overthrowing
democracies. I've looked, but I have only been able to find 3
democracies that were overthrown by leftists, but well over 100 that were
overthrown by the right. Why is that?



Wilbur Hubbard