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Default Power boaters and their wakes

On Nov 9, 11:58 am, Ruby Vee wrote:
On 2007-11-09 07:50:07 -0500, Skip Gundlach said:





Here's what I said: "Grain of Salt (later shown to be grain of sand,
but I'm sure they got the point), Grain of Salt, Grain of Salt, this
is Sailing Vessel Flying Pig, ahead of you. We're aware of your
behavior. We have an 82 year old woman aboard. If you pass us like
you did the last couple of sailboats, and your wake causes her to lose
her balance and she is injured, be advised that we *WILL* take you to
court. Flying Pig out."


Not surprisingly, nothing was heard (despite the fact of the mistaken
name, I can't imagine there was any confusion on the point). Later,
we heard traffic complaining about these same two boats' passage
behavior, but it sounded like each successive one got a little better.


Finally, three power boats were coming up on our stern. I got on the
blower and said, "Southbound power boats approaching southbound St.
Thomas registry sailboat (our name is on the bow and sideboards, not
the stern), when you get to me, I'll pull over to the right and go
into neutral to allow you a safe slow pass." Nothing heard.


That's what I did - and that's what they did. The two miscreants were
in the lead, and another followed right behind. There was a fourth
rather further behind, and he continued to blast along, alarming the
ladyfolk, but I said, and it proved correct, that he was just closing
the gap. Just at the right time, he pulled it back, and idled by.


I thanked them and congratulated all on the perfect pass, and they all
picked it up again and continued to blast along. I heard nothing
further from any down the line about what jerks they were, so I gather
they got the point.


Last night (boats tend to move in flotillas) we were chatting with
another boat we'd met along the way, and they commented on how lovely
and considerate all the power boaters had seemed to be - but they'd
been in front of us, and so would have experienced these boats after
us. We have, indeed, encountered - generally - great courtesy, as
we've gone along. However, these above, I also heard in chatter, I
think, must have been inexperienced, as I heard, not long before they
got to us, some complaint (an attempt, not successful, in doing the
slow pass) being responded to as "a learning experience in progress" -
so perhaps they got their training in the Alligator-Pungo Canal :{))


Sounds like the perfect solution to the power boat problem. And it IS
a problem! We encounter them when we're out sailing -- seems like some
of them speed up just as they're going by us. I'm not sure if they're
trying to make a point ("Get out of my way, you fat, slow sailboat!")
or just want to see if they can swamp us.

But what REALLY scared me is when DH and I were out swimming in the
creek (unlike where I grew up, THIS creek has three marinas within
swimming distance of us) and power boats would dart out of the channel
to check us out, swimming along the shore. I was afraid that they'd
run over ME trying to see what DH was up to, or vice versa. Once
they'd determined that we were human swimmers, many of them would rev
up the engine to dart back into the channel. A wake is uncomfortable
in a sailboat -- dangerous to a swimmer. What's up with THAT?!

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Just a few comments.

I've done the ditch back and forth between NY and Florida many times
delivering boats. Most power boaters know enough to slow down when
overtaking a slower vessel, and most sail boaters know enough to turn
into the wake as they go by. Their are a few bad apples on both sides,
I have seen several sail boats that refused to move aside and let
anyone pass, most learned the hard way that was the wrong thing to do.
Some even beleaved they always had the right of way, which they don't.
I've seen sail boats refuse to give way to large commercial traffic,
with tragic results, all the while claiming "I had the right of way".

And their are some sail boaters beleave that the water should be
without a single ripple, that's not going to happen, get over it.

Your on a boat, and waves, be they from Mother Nature, or from another
boat, are going to happen. If you'r stupid enough to bring a frail old
lady on your boat, and she gets injured, that's your responsibility.
You can try to blame it on whoever you want, you were the one foolish
enough to take her along. Did you ever hear of storms? Do you think
large commercial traffic, that throw large wakes, that must maintain
headway to maintain control is, or will, slow down because you made a
mistake, and you want him to place himself, his crew and vessel, at
risk because of your bad decision? Go ahead and get on the radio and
rant about how your going to sue anyone that rocks your boat. No one's
going to give you a response, such a message does not deserve a
response. See if you can get a lawyer to do what you want, good luck,
it's not going to happen. You may be the one who gets sued by the
"little old lady". Captians who injure their passangers on pleasure
boats get sued by them all the time, you could become one of them.

Your on the water, never depend on the other person to do the right
thing, that's how accidents happen. And never take someone on board
that could be seriously injured by as a result of things that might
happen during the course of a normal day on the water. To do so is a
sign of a poor captian, one that takes risk that he shouldn't take.