On Oct 22, 3:57 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 22, 11:31?am, "Ernest Scribbler"

wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote

You will be able to buy a half ton pickup from GM, rated for 6000 lb
towing capacity, in the 2008 model year.

Whoah. I'm getting a huge raise? Or hitting the lottery?

You as in the group sense, not the specific. Prices reputedly "start"
at under $40,000, and if I'm not mistaken that's not an exceptionally
high price for a new full size truck.


I'm not saying I'm old school, but I'm still leary of a gm hybrid.
Toyotaa or honda? that's different. But over the past few decades, GM
has done plenty of experimenting ont he public. a whole lot of PR
work, to make scrap metal sing. examples:

Vega. "Siliconeized aluminum block. great light engine that was worn
out in 25,000 mi or less, and car came pre-rusted.

Cadillac 8-6-4 ingenius idea of shutting off valve train so that the
engine could cruise on 4 cyl. at road speed and would vary the power
and fuel economy, that is untill the engine caught on fire.

1978 GM computerized ignition Push it more than you drive it.
5.7 Olds diesel (ahem)
6.2 GM diesel (ahem *cough*)

Cadillacs 4.1 aluminum engine complete with no camshaft bearings.
aluminum would wear, oil pressure would drop, nothing thatt about
$3800.00 couldn't cure, But they consistantly recieved the Golden
Caliber" (Yellow Pincher) award. Go figure...

about any 80's GM auto, doors hinges came factory pre-worn, and door
handles were pre broken. fading paint came standard equipment, but
mylar chromie doo-dads worked pretty good... for a while.

GM's idea seemed like "Here's what we have, lump it or leave it"

I like GM products actually, but only after they've proven themselves
after a couple years. But it seems like in many ways, their
inovation out weighs their practical reasonability.

GM seems to me like their philosophy was to entice the consumer to "be
the first one on your block to" be laughed at.