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Default More Nukes on the Bay?

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:39:57 -0700, Chuck Gould
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On Oct 11, 7:44?am, wrote:
On Oct 11, 10:26 am, HK wrote:

especially since the jobs created will be union jobs.


Yeah, we need unions to do to the nuke industry what they have done to
the Grocery, Airline, Auto, Manufacturing, and so many other
industries who have been driven over the borders, and into
bankruptcy...


One batch of *******s steals for one group of special interests, and
the other batch of *******s steals for the other.

Industries haven't been "driven over the borders", they have moved to
where socialist economies, substandard "standards" of living, and very
little expectation of property ownership or wealth accumulation among
the working class provide unlimited numbers of people willing to work
for
$50-$100 US per week.

I'm sure that if there were enough people in the US willing to sleep
in cardboard boxes along side the road, eat 600 calories a day, die of
simple diseases before age 45 and therefore able to work for that same
$50-$100 a week the industries that have been "driven away" would come
back in a heartbeat.

But we can't simply blame the industrialists. (On topic, here..).
Certain products wouldn't even exist if they had to be built in the
US. Sure, when WalMart dictates to an appliance company that it will
only pay $6 for a waffle iron (but will buy a million of them a year)
a lot of companies are forced to move offshore to compete. That $6
wholesale allows Walmart to sell that waffle iron for $19.99 and come
out OK.
If Walmart would pay $10 for the same waffle iron, consumers might
have to pay $25, but there would be a waffle iron factory in Chicago
rather than in Shanghai..... but that's waffle irons, and not what I'm
referring to.

When it comes to boats it's not so simple. Even manufacturing in China
results in 7-figure price tages on 55-60 foot boats. Having $1-million
puts you somewhere near upper-middle class these days, (70,000
families in my home county are reputed to have $1 million or more in
net financial assets *excluding* equity in a home), but still there
are a limited number of people who have the means and will so
prioritize their spending to sink $1,2, or 3 million into a boat.
Manufacturing some of the larger yacts in the US, even in a "right to
work (for less)" environment would probably double the pricing on many
large yachts.

Case in point: Recently compared two very nice boats. One built in the
US selling for just under $900,000 and one bult in China selling for
just over $1mm. The US boat is a 42-footer, the boat built in China is
59 feet.


Hey Chuck! Just think, when the socialists get our economy to their liking,
our cardboard boxes may be a little bigger, and we may be making $100-$150
a week. But, we'll sure be proud of our redistributed wealth. Of course the
wealthy politicos (socialists, of course), will be living high on the hog.
(That's where the tenderloin is, high on the hog.)

Then, only the bosses will be able to afford a (on topic again) boat,
whether made in China or the USA.

Was the quality of construction the same on both of those boats?