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Default ELLago Coffee Co is offical

On Sep 20, 9:07 pm, "Lloyd Bonafide" wrote:
Container ships are the most efficient way to haul cargo (per pound) on the
planet.That's just based on fuel cost.


What if there is no fuel cost beyond generator and channel transiting
and docking?

A 311,883 tonne "Super Tanker" @ 15.69 knots would burn 190 tonnes of
fuel per day. (figures for the ex-Shell tanker "Lanistes")

A 71,425 ton tanker @ 16.75 knots would burn 118 tons of fuel per day.
(figures for the ex-Shell tanker "Serenia")

A 18,911 ton product carrier @ 14.25 knots would burn 49 tons per day.
(figures for the ex-Shell tanker "Hemitrochus")




Throw in the time factor -


For green coffee you can take your time...there is no rush. For
roasted with degassing tech, you have a few months without problems.

Might even get the most expensive coffee on earth (beside that coffee
the critters crap) if I could recreate the moonsooned process.

Mr Ukers says in the sailing ship delivery days cargo holds would
induce a natural sweating affect on the coffee. As a result, the
coffee will turn a rare shade of brown that brings a premium. It is
believed that this browning greatly improves the flavor and body of
coffee. In the old days Captains that brought in "extra brown" were
given a bonus. Coffee brought by sail was termed "ex-sailing ships."
After the turn of the century, there were attempts to duplicate the
browning process by steam heating coffee brought in by steamships but
it was never the same.


scheduling, spoilage etc and the container ship is #1 by far. Containerships
don't burn that much fuel.


see fuel amounts above.

I admit a container ship will be more efficent than a tanker but
still will burn 30,000 +gallons a day IIRC. I have nothing against big
ships, I just feel with certain types of cargo speed and schedules are
not critical, and if we can reduce the amount of fuel used for trade,
we will be reducing the major use of fuel on earth. Every journey
starts with a single step.


A rotorship is a much more efficient use of wind power for ships. No sails
needed, small number of crew necessary.

http://www.efluids.com/efluids/galle...ettner_rotorsh...

Maybe you can convert RedCloud to a rotor.


Captain Cousteau's son had a rotor ship IIRC. Captain Cousteau became
famous when he did a documentry near Ambergris Caye diving the Blue
Hole.

Joe