"Terry K" wrote in message
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The innie and the outie are the same knot. If you consider that in
the photo, you cannot see where the three ends which go off screen are
connected.

One is free, one is bent up, one is bent down. Bent means connected
in topology. That is the only difference between the two shown.

Now consider whether you like them face up or face down, left or right
handed, clockwise around the tree or counterclockwise, all the same.

Nice thing about the bowline is it can be used any way.

The only nicer knot is a commissionaire, or crochet chain. It can
easily be done with one hand and a belay.

Terry K



Huh? I'm talking about the bitter ends not the bight. One is on the inside
(innie) one is on the outside (outie). There's only one end that counts on a
bowline.


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