On Aug 16, 5:30 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

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On Aug 16, 1:14 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
Ok lets review..I know this is hard but focus Jon.

"Sunday, August 12, when the Miss Beach Haven, with
complete disregard for the safety of others, steamed through the very
narrow channel near Goosebar Sedge, throwing so much water so closely
to us that you caused an injury to my crew when she fell in the
galley. "

My mistake. In that case, the CG should be notified.

Should be, but not required, because the injury did not need more than
basic first aid. had it required further medical attention then it
would be required by law.

You said smart Captain's will lie.
I said they will not

This is your opinion vs. my opinion. Nothing you've said has convinced me
that you're right.

Well I guess all the licenced Capt'n you run with are liars and
cowards, without any honor..That must suck. Oh well I guess you will
fit in nicely.

He's not much of a captain if he's doing something illegal, so what brings
you to the conclusion he's going to be honest about this?


DUTY:
Perhaps he did not realize what he is doing is illegal, infact unless
he is in a no wake zone then he is doing nothing illegal, until he
hurts someone or damages someone property. He may be a cluess newbe
Capt who has no ideal what it's like to be hit with a 20 kt 5 ft wake
in a small saiboat. Someone needs to address the issue with him, and
that is Scout duty as the Captain of the affected craft.

HONOR:
Yes I feel that most licenced USMM master have hornor and will not
lie to cover up a mistake. Most will stand up and admit to a mistake.
They will not lie.

Safety:
Scout letter reached the owners, the owners will address the issue
with the operator, yet I doubt they will respond directly (Advice from
the Dave's in the World)

Either way the operator will not IMO do it again.


Still with the personal insults.... I know you're an angry guy. Were you
molested?

There was this 29yo airforce Cap's wife, ...but I was 13..does that
count?
Thanks for the memory jolt.


You said inform the Harbor Master.
I said you should consult your CFR, and notify the proper officals.

I said that the HB would be able to deal with this quickly and
efficiently.

VS doing it yourself... to the proper authorties as defined in the CFR

Yes vs. doing it yourself, which is not productive unless of course you
think threatening him is the right thing to do.

Why are you always saying threatening? I rather follow thru then
threaten to follow thru


You said the CG will ignore a wake induced injury unless they
witnessed it.

No I didn't.

"they're just going
to say they can't do anything."

I say they will investagate.

Your opinion.

It's not an opinion. If the USCG fails to investigate then they can be
brought up on charges of derilection of duty.

If there were no injuries, it's a he-said/she-said situation. Their
"investigation" will be to tell you to give them some evidence.

We were not talking about no injuries...**** if there are no injuries
then it's a chance to surf the boat.

You said Scout lost creadibility by informing others on a sailng NG.
I say he did not.

I changed my mind, given who it was, which was unclear originally.

Ohh so if it's a buddie he's right..if not.. he loses all
credibility.. I see where you are coming from.

No. If he has credibility, then I tend to listen. You listen to crackpots?
Oh, that must be it.

I listen to everyone.

Who's right?

Not you in my opinion, especially after the personal attack.

Oh my..Do you base all marine law and federal regulations on people
pointing out your personal and proffesional flaws?

I base my impressions about someone's knowledge based in some measure upon
how they're able to communicate. You need work.

Indeed, I practice here.

Joe

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