On Jul 9, 10:29?pm, jps wrote:
In article .com,
says...

in the group of folks
who won't (quite) always be wrong have to be our esteemed friends with
a more conservative perspective. It is just such a willingness to be
frank, self critical, inclusive, and willing to accept the opposition
as worthy individuals of merit and intelligence (rather than "enemies
of the state") that marks an important difference between liberal
ideology and the politics of hate, blame, and recrimination preached
by the Limbaughs, Hannitys, Savages, etc of the world.

Chuck,

All our "conservative" friends would have to do is admit they were
complete idiots for having ever having believed that the Bush/Cheney
Iraq war was anything but a grab for the world's biggest nearly
unaffiliated pool of oil (it just needed to be liberated from Saddam).

You and the rest of folks from the left suffered through so much
bull**** when this was all coming down.

I want to read their admissions that they were freakin' idiots.

Even Republican leadership is giving up on these bald faced liars. Only
fools would continue to believe this administration is about anything
but protecting the rich and richer and all their agendum.

Let them admit they were sucked in by a group of ill-inspired jackasses
that have reduced this country's ability to compete in the world while
setting us on a rotten footing morally, ethically and spiritually,
who're now threatening the very foundation of our republic by thwarting
and stonewalling the two other branches of government.

If this were Democrats taking the country down, our conservative friends
would be peering through the blinds of their media rooms with their
semi-automatic weapons in hand, looking for cars bearing Kerry/Edwards
stickers to shoot at.

Let them apologize for their foolishness...

and I'll go back to writing exclusively about boating in this newsgroup.

jps

"Blame" isn't important or useful.

When we're up to our bee-hinds in alligators, it doesn't really matter
who can be blamed for failing to drain the swamp.

My perspective is that we are currently facing some serioius problems
as a society. Unfortunately, some of these problems have been
exacerbated by tendencies to divide up and feud among ourselves-
tendencies that have been encouraged by specific factions perhaps more
than others.

We need to come together. It's time to stop blaming everything on
Clinton, for sure, and it's about time to start trying to fix,
together, anything that may have gone sideways under the present
Executive.

Our fellow Americans are not the enemy, but the enemy *might* be those
who try to convince us that our fellow Americans are. In that vein,
getting on somebody's case for being a conservative (or a liberal) or
for previously expressing support for a policy or porgram that so far
hasn't worked out very well is destructive.

Even *if* blame could be assigned (and it can't) and even *if* blame
were accepted (and it will never be), once the blame were assigned and
accepted we would still need to fix whatever problems somebody,
somewhere, is to blame for. Hijacking a thread to start a political
scrap is in the worst traditions of a lot of folks who try to cause
problems rather than solve them- so I wish you wouldn't and I have now
put my 22-cents in. :-) Carry on.