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On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote:

So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison
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Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing
changes
in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second
opinon
before
stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go
ahead.
Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know.

You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the
planet's
getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in
one
of
the
causes.

Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate
Earth
is
getting warmer?

Do your own home work.

No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it
relates
to
the
article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide.

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So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the
expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if
global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um,
ahhh,
milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a
(assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too!
So
here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super
ivy"
in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is
warming,
one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the
shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees
warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm...

Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion:

1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground
two
years ago, and that's about it.

Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :)

2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener?

Pansy.

3) How old are you?

What the hell does that have to do with anything?

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Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for
over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a
very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables
most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the
Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who
specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival,
mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know
about poison ivy?

Then, it seems odd that you are having difficulty understanding how one
person's observations of a plant, in one location, can be so different
from
yours. You can move an ornamental plant 5 feet closer to a wall which
reflects light and heat, and the plant will behave in a totally different
way than it did in its previous location, after taking transplanting
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Sure I have, but what does that have to do with a mythical strain of
super PI caused by GW?

I thought you said you were a gardener. How do you know it's a "strain",
rather than a plant responding to different growing conditions? Hint: Most
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Ah, I am a gardener, more of an outdoorsman, but alas, not a schooled
botanist so I guess my opinion is probably moot when it comes to PI or
GW for that matter. Although, I am still interested in hearing your
qualifications in these areas, I am always willing to learn and even
change my mind.