thunder wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:14:17 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:41:16 -0000, thunder
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:41:11 -0400, BAR wrote:


Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is
getting warmer?
Oh please, no one knows the rate that Mars is warming. Hell, we have
over a hundred years of weather station data here on Earth, tree ring
data, ice cores, etc. and science still isn't sure of our climate
mechanisms. If from the limited data we have on Mars, you think you
have a handle on it's climate, you are fooling yourself.
Start here.

http://www.agiweb.org/geotimes/feb02/NN_MarsCC.html

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...ts_040421.html

Come on, Tom. " Jupiter is undergoing major climate change and could lose many of its large spots over
the next seven years, only to make way for the creation of fresh spots in a decades-long cycle, according
to a new explanation of old mysteries."

That seems about right, seeing that it's orbit takes 4332.71 days to complete. Saturn's orbit takes 29
years, and Uranus 84 years. Now if you want to put any changes in their "climates" to changes in the
sun's output, and not variations in their normal "seasons", fine. Hell, Uranus was discovered in 1781.
That means we've been "viewing" it for less than 3 Uranus' years, hardly enough time to study it's
climate variations.

Mars, on the other hand, has been studied, and there are indications that it is warming. However, I
would suggest from the indications we have, that it would be difficult to state the rate at which it is
warming, and impossible to state that the rate is the same as Earth's, as BAR did.




http://www2.keck.hawaii.edu/news/science/saturn/

http://tinyurl.com/3cmwqb

Work your way from there. :)


Ninety per cent of the "opposition" to the prevalent theories of global
warming are based upon nothing more than traditional conservative (it's
going to hurt the corporations) bull****. The cons are afraid that if we
have to take steps to curtail our contributions to warming, it will hurt
their stocks. That's really all there is there. It's the same kind of
pigheaded thinking that has so many conservatives speaking up for
anti-science concepts that oppose evolution and the unrestricted use of
stem cells, and all the rest of the happy horse****. To even engage the
cons on these issues is to give them credence they don't deserve.