On Thu, 31 May 2007 11:34:55 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:



Oh no - your not getting out of this that easily. :)

"This is often referred to as COUNTERSTEERING"

Here is where I think the concepts are confusing.

Just for giggles, I borrowed the dirt bike from the kid across the
street and did some experiments on the straight and the S curves on my
road.

There is no way you can initiate a left hand turn by pushing the left
handlebar forward at speed going straight. It's not possible.

Now, if I lean left, I can control the turn by pushing the handlebar
up to maintain the angle of the turn and the angle of attack to the
curve. Just like a bicycle.

You, sir, are wrong. But, that's OK. I didn't take into account that the
kid's dirt bike was a tricycle. Stop the leaning, which confuses the issue.
Pretend you are a sack of potatoes, i.e., keep your body on the same plane
as the bike. Now, at speed, take your right hand off the bar and slightly
push forward with your left hand. You will go left, unless you have a
negative rake angle on the bike. (For more on this, go to:

http://www.msgroup.org/TIP163.html

Or, it could be that a lot of people in the 'know' are just lying to you.
If, however, you are ever in a position where you must make a sudden
swerve, it helps to know how to do it. Guesswork causes people to go off
the edge of the road or hit the automobile they were trying to avoid.